All I can say is congratulations on the 2 deer. If they only ran 30 and 100 yards, he must have done some good shooting. Just get that bow tuned, and go get another! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Edited by - joshkeller on 11/12/2002 16:07:45

&quot;The drawback to bowhunting's popularity is, the woods are becoming overcrowded and there aren't enough &quot;old-timers&quot; passing on the ethics and skills necessary to become what I call a &quot;real hunter&quot;.

&quot;What I mean by that is, it takes skill and experience to be a hunter. Anyone can shoot game. A real hunter will always strive to make the best shot and pass up a bad shot (even at a trophy-class animal). A real hunter has a deep respect for the animal hunted and the environment in which it lives.&quot;

&quot;There isn't an unlimited supply of game and a real hunter is not a game hog. Hunting season and bag limits are set for a good reason. In my family, we have self-imposed limits.&quot;

Linda Thompson
Writer/hunter


&quot;Today there is no need to battle with the beasts of prey and little necessity to kill wild animals for food; but still the instinct persists. The love of the chase still thrills us and all the misty past echoes with the hunters call.&quot;

&quot;In the joy of hunting, is intimately woven the love of the great outdoors. The beauty of woods, valleys, mountains, and skies feeds the soul of the sportsman where the quest of game only whets his appetite.&quot;

&quot;After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport&quot;

Dr. Saxton Pope

Edited by - c903 on 11/12/2002 13:54:48

Congratulations on two quick, clean kills. Forget the negative posts, they mean nothing to anyone but themselves.

Those kind of responses make me worry that our biggest threat to our sport may not be the anti's but rather our own backbiting.

Come on the two biggest problems with all of this is:
1) THE NAME CALLING AND BASHING IS REDICULOUS.

2) THE USE OF THE WORD FAWN. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED A FAWN IS A VERY SMALL DEER WITH SPOTS. IT HAS NEVER BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THESE DEER HAD SPOTS. LAY OFF OF IT PLEASE.

I don't remember who it was but there was a kid that posted about the same time this thread was, and he was writing about the dogs barking. The kid out right said that he pulled down on a FAWN (and these were his exact words) and had every intention of killing it. It is strange how he was told to keep trying and he would get one and not one person blasted him for it. Not quite sure what the difference is but this has gotten way out of hand.
Can't we all get along and try to help each other?

Grim Reaper, one person said that shooting fawns were harder because they are harder to hit, and that person was CLEARLY joking. see your post below:

&quot;When people say I have shot fawns before and I will do it again and shooting fawns is a challenge becouse they are smaller&quot;

Lets stick to the real topics here and not twist words. Congrats to this gentleman on his hunt, glad to hear he has the passion, and glad to hear he learned what an improperly tuned setup will do without having to wound anything to find out.

And for those of you who can tell a button at 20 yards, walking through a small opening, God bless you, I can't. I have no desire to try and please those 'hunters' who feel shooting a young deer is beneath them. I hunt because I enjoy it, and am selective when I want to be, and to be honest I kind of wonder how many 'trophies' the trophy hunters around here have shot.

I got news for all of you, if a button buck gets close enough for me to have him for dinner, that is exactly what I will do. Eat him for dinner, and enjoy every delicious bite!

And I can tell you right now, if I didn't get excited everytime I killed any deer I wouldn't be hunting anymore. Mistake? I think not sounds, like they have a years worth of venison in the freezer. However, I am a little concerned with six missed shots, not tuning a bow before steppng in to the woods isn't a mistake it is sacrilege. Because, if a button buck gets within range, and you missed for lack of tuning you should hang up your bow and find a new sport like crochet.

Love,
KSUIE

C903,
Can you expain to me exactly what part of your last post these people violated?? They hunted and they were successful and they were totally within the law. End of story.

If anyone is TOTALLY missing the point of your post it is you. I didn't once see the words trophy buck or mature deer in there. A deer does not have to be huge to be meaningful.

I figured add my 2cents. I personnally don't knock what other hunters decide to shoot long as its legal. I may joke to friends of mine about certain situations, but deep down it was their choice, and if they are happy with it, so be it. Personnally I don't like to shoot fawns. I did take a button buck as my first deer many yrs back, and another button couple yrs later, as it was alreadly hit, and limping bad, so I finished him off. That was close to 18yrs ago. I haven't taken a fawn since. I've learned how to identify fawns in my woods whether alone or with a adult deer. I myself find it fairly easy now. Here in NY I can identify them by simply looking at their face. Fawns always have that short young face unlike adults, especially adult doe who have a longer snout. Body size of fawns varies, and I've seen some good size healthy fawns this season I'm sure others will mistake for doe come gun season. Just like waterfowl hunters need to quickly identify that flying duck before they shoot for species bag limits, we as bowhunters need to learn to identify our targets if you have certain goals in the woods. If not kill as you must.

You can beat this subject to death and you will never get everyone to agree. Some people are lucky to even see a few deer in an entire year and they will shoot the first deer to come along. Some people get excited when any deer comes within shooting range and then they all look large. If I need meat then I do try to be choisey when I can but I am disabled and cannot climb the mountains anymore and cannot afford a 4 wheeler so I am limited in the places where I can hunt. I also cannot see as well as in years gone by and if I decide to take a young animal then I cannot tell its on the ground if it has buttons or not. I guess some on this board would say then I shouldnt be hunting. Thats their opinion.

This board used to be a fun place to visit and to post on. A place to get help and info now it seems like more and more it is a place if things arent worded just right then you get jumped on.

To me all deer are trophys if they are taken legally and expecally with a bow. I have over 40 years experience in deer hunting and have taken my share of deer with a bow a gun and a muzzleloader and the thrill is still the same today as it was the first time I got one.

Let us not forget most people post on here because they are proud of their kill and if we cant have something positive to say to them then we should just leave the post alone. What we are doing is showing new people that some of us are (perferct hunters who never make a mistake and always take hugh animals) which if you are then I should soon be seeing your show on tv.

In WV this year I can take between 9&12 deer I'm not even sure which but in reality what if I take 9 what will I do with them but thats what the DNR wants it is entirely possible that all the deer in WV could be wiped out in this one season alone. Will it happen NO but it could they say there are entirely too many deer but I also know several hunters that have not even saw one.

Come on guys lets turn this thing around and turn this board back into what it was a great place for hunters new and old lets say congrats to someone who lets us know he has scored and try to help those in need of tracking help, or the ones that need help tuneing their bow and stop this knittpicking and running them off.
Just one old mans opinion

Roy

LADYBOWHUNTER38,

JUST MY 2 CENTS, MY DAD IS 82 YEARS YOUNG. IF HE SHOT 2 BUTTON BUCKS I WOULD HAVE TEARS OF JOY IN MY EYES FOR HIM, ESPECIALLY IF THAT MADE HIM HAPPY.

I GUESS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM JUST DO NOT REALIZE THAT LIFE DOES COME TO AN END FOR US ALSO AND EVERY YEAR I TAKE MY DAD HUNTING COULD POSSIBLY BE HIS LAST. HE SPENT MANY A DAY IN THE WOODS WITH ME, NOW ITS MY TURN FOR HIM.

IT IS SO OBVIOUS TO ME THAT THIS FILLED YOUR DADS HEAT WITH JOY AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS. WEATHER IT IS RIGHT OR WRONG WHO CARES AS LONG AS IT MADE HIM HAPPY. I SAY &quot;CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM&quot; AND ALSO TO YOU FOR SUPPORTING HIS TRIUMPH.

Hunt on Hunt hard Eat well