You are the one advocating making getting a chance at a bigger buck easier........not me.




When did I say that? I'm not promoting making it "easier", I'm advocating making it POSSIBLE!!! I've read it over and over from hunters across the country that just plain and simple have NO, NADA, ZERO mature bucks to hunt because venison addicts like yourself only seem to care about satiating your glutonous desires and can't see the forest through the trees because your belly is in the way and you slay anything brown "as long as it's legal". Nice.




I do............and unlike you I actually enjoy venison and can't make one deer last a whole year...........we went through 7 last year. You can go buy steak if you want to.............I prefer to shoot mine instead

It's only me and my 3-year old who eat venison in the house and a 200lb buck provides plenty for us. I donated a 120lb doe to the hungry last year...how much meat did you donate to the less fortunate????





I noticed you have avoided addressing this multiple times now..........I don't blame you, it pretty much flushes all your BS down the drain

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I can't comment to TXHighrack's experience but I know several dozen bowhunters in my state and they wouldn't waste the little breath required to tell you to just go home and continue ruining your deer population than to explain to you the immense challenge in bowhunting free roaming mature whitetail bucks. You're so off base here I'm surprised I've wasted my time. You don't know it and evidently, you Doubting "Atlasman" Thomas, must have to stick your fingers in the holes before you believe it and it is a shame you'll never know the wonderful experience.

Good for you Wolfen. I bet the 4 years you spent waiting for the right deer to come along was time well spent in your opinion.

My words have been twisted (misquoted)so many times in this thread from their original meaning that I will set the record straight. I have never said that it is a "given" to see trophy deer every time out. I said "it is almost a given to see mature deer every time out". Not every mature deer is a trophy. It is my opinion that there are very few mature deer that are actually trophies. I get a better feeling from letting the smaller, younger deer walk then from killing them. I have went severalseasons without releasing an arrow but I can assure each and every one of you that I have enjoyed my hunts just as much as anyone. Isn't that what it is all about?

Wolfen - Unlike you I have killed my share of these younger deer in my days. I am more like WV Hunter.WV Hunter has expressed my feelings about hunting almost word for word in the quote above. I feel that I have matured into the hunter that I am today by working my way up from the easy kills of the younger, less wise deer up to the Kings of the woods.

If I dont kill a deer that meets up to my expectations this season,I will not count this season as a loss. I can guarantee you that I will enjoy my hunts just as much as the next guy regardless if I kill or not.

In closing I will add the following. I practice QDM and Atlasman is correct(did I really write that), I do this to make my chances of killing a real trophy deer greater. Does it make killing a trophy easier? I hope so but I doubt that the odds will be much more in my favor. Do I enjoy going into the woods and letting deer after deer walk under my stand while I wait for the one that meets my self prescribed requirements? You bet! Do I belittle people who have different views than me? Of course not.

Translation..............you are promoting making it easier. This thread has proved that very fact numerous times by the guys who shoot and see multiple "mature" bucks every year now by just letting them grow like apples on a tree. Just because you have to smother your venison in spaghetti sauce to choke it down...........don't get so upset because other people actually like it.


That's your problem.......not mine.




I would be staring at an empty freezer by February.


I gave meat to probably 10-15 different families last year..........just me. My brothers and dad share with others as well. We also put 50 lbs into the freezer for our gun clubs yearly wild game dinner which I cook, clean and serve less fortunate people at all day every year.


It's not just TXHighrack..........the other guys have no problems putting "mature" bucks down each year now that they grew them a little bit. Are you saying that all 3 of these guys that are on different land in different states are all the victims of a huge coincidence??? C'mon man



I am simply showing you what others have said about what happens when they take your advice.............you are just upset because it doesn't jive with the BS you are pushing on everyone else.

It is so refreshing to see some guys actually be honest about QDM.........I don't know why so many guys try to BS everyone with all the noble smokescreens and bravado. Good for you man.......if more guys had the guts to be honest about it instead of trying to fool or guilt everyone into following along QDM may get a warmer reception.

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Do I belittle people who have different views than me? Of course not.

Another all too rare trait in the QDM crowd.

i've only read the first 6 pages of this thread, and i'm beyond fed up with it. every area is different, producing bucks that are different, for hunters that are different, and all run by 'legislators' that are different and so on and so on.
if it's a trophy in your mind take it, if not fine, let it go for the next guy who thinks it is and we'll all be happy.
just quit your bitchin and go huntin'!!!!!

Good for you Wolfen. I bet the 4 years you spent waiting for the right deer to come along was time well spent in your opinion.

Wolfen - Unlike you I have killed my share of these younger deer in my days. I am more like WV Hunter.WV Hunter has expressed my feelings about hunting almost word for word in the quote above. I feel that I have matured into the hunter that I am today by working my way up from the easy kills of the younger, less wise deer up to the Kings of the woods.






I learned so much those first few years of hunting and laugh when I look back at some of my "theories" about deer and the one thing I love about this game is that if I hunt for a hundred more years, I will never stop learning and discovering...it's simply awesome.

I must pay due respects to the real heroes like WVhunter who are fighting a very tough battle in improving the health and quality of the deer herd that they hunt. The buck-to-doe ratio is incredibly out of whack, and browner downer gun slayers hammer the deer every year but that's not all...the genetics are just flat out poor and yet Mike and his buddies stay true to QDM and take their share of does and let the young deer go so they can grow. If anyone I know gets a monster buck this year, I hope it is him. Good luck buddy!!!

Sounds to me like u guys in the usa have to many deer to choose from hope everyone gets what there looking for

That's alot of venison..... How did you manage that from a few yearlings?????

Really, all day every year? How do you find time to argue on hereso much between your job, the cooking and hunting?

I thought I'd add a little tidbit of info I got today, since it fits in to the theme of this thread.

My buddy that lives in WV called last night. He has 100 acres that we hunt on, and practice QDM on. Anyhow in this area of WV, there are alot of deer, fairly poor genetics, and alot of pressure. We also have some genetic traits we see fairly often. One being piebalds. 3 years ago, a piebald fawn buck showed up at his place. We watched him...cool looking deer. The following year he was spike with about 4 inch horns.Last year he was still alive (which is a feat in itself up there, even if he wasn't half white) and he again was a spike with larger, cow horn type spikes.

So anyhow...he calls and asks me if I remember the deer....I say of course I do, he's the piebald we've seen for a while. He says "he's still here, and he's a 15" 8point now".

WOW! That is a huge jump from 2.5 to 3.5 We'd probably have never known if he wasn't so identifiable, being half white.

It just goes to show you....let them go, and they will grow

Good luck guys!

SO you hunt for bragging rights? I hunt for meat, period. Do everyone a favor and hunt for meat and not antlers (meant tongue in cheek, just a little turnabout) -- I definitely couldn't give a rat's patoot why you hunt or what you wait to kill, but think it's funny you think we should care about your personal priorities!