Advice on shot placement.
09-19-2010, 01:26 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Posts: 1,832
I don't know where he lives or temp myself.He did shoot it at dark so things will be cooling off.Where I live it cold at night already near zero. If he recovered it first thing in the morn it may still be good.He could live in Pacific Time like I do, so it's just 2:00pm where as it close to 5:00 almost dinner time in the Eastern Time Zone.Reguardless, I'm sure he found it.
09-19-2010, 05:19 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,558
I think that someone here does not have a lot of experience hunting deer and wants us to look into our crystal balls and tell him where that deer is at and if he killed it or not.
My guess is that if he got it, he should have stayed in that spot for a hour and then went to look for it. If it was hit in the lungs - it might go 300 yards max.
If you hit it in the guts - it will probably suffer a long slow death.
That is the one thing that I hate about archery hunting, those guys with stick n string that goes out and wounds a bunch of nice deer.
Then when rifle season rolls around, you find nice bucks laying dead in some old grapevines - where no one thought of looking for him.
Or shooting a nice trophy buck and when you go to gut him out, he is all full of puss from a arrow that has been sticking in his guts for the past 4 weeks.
Where I live at, my opinion is that they ought to put archery season after rifle season.
My guess is that if he got it, he should have stayed in that spot for a hour and then went to look for it. If it was hit in the lungs - it might go 300 yards max.
If you hit it in the guts - it will probably suffer a long slow death.
That is the one thing that I hate about archery hunting, those guys with stick n string that goes out and wounds a bunch of nice deer.
Then when rifle season rolls around, you find nice bucks laying dead in some old grapevines - where no one thought of looking for him.
Or shooting a nice trophy buck and when you go to gut him out, he is all full of puss from a arrow that has been sticking in his guts for the past 4 weeks.
Where I live at, my opinion is that they ought to put archery season after rifle season.
Keep up the good work, Mr. Deer Hunter.
09-20-2010, 10:07 AM
#23
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 8
Well guys, I looked all day yesterday and nothing. No deer and no blood, and no arrow either. I did a grid search of that whole pine stand where he ran into, and some of the hardwoods next to it. I'm wondering if my shot was a bit more forward than I thought and hit the shoulder blade? Or even in-between the blade and spine and missed the lungs entirely? If that happened, is that still a fatal hit with the arrow in him? Just really anxious right now and not sure where to turn or what to do. Love to go back out and look some more but not sure where to start. From where I shot him to the back end of that pine stand has to be almost 7 or 800 yards.
Thanks for all the advice so far.
Thanks for all the advice so far.
09-20-2010, 10:11 AM
#24
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 8
I think that someone here does not have a lot of experience hunting deer and wants us to look into our crystal balls and tell him where that deer is at and if he killed it or not.
My guess is that if he got it, he should have stayed in that spot for a hour and then went to look for it. If it was hit in the lungs - it might go 300 yards max.
If you hit it in the guts - it will probably suffer a long slow death.
That is the one thing that I hate about archery hunting, those guys with stick n string that goes out and wounds a bunch of nice deer.
Then when rifle season rolls around, you find nice bucks laying dead in some old grapevines - where no one thought of looking for him.
Or shooting a nice trophy buck and when you go to gut him out, he is all full of puss from a arrow that has been sticking in his guts for the past 4 weeks.
Where I live at, my opinion is that they ought to put archery season after rifle season.
My guess is that if he got it, he should have stayed in that spot for a hour and then went to look for it. If it was hit in the lungs - it might go 300 yards max.
If you hit it in the guts - it will probably suffer a long slow death.
That is the one thing that I hate about archery hunting, those guys with stick n string that goes out and wounds a bunch of nice deer.
Then when rifle season rolls around, you find nice bucks laying dead in some old grapevines - where no one thought of looking for him.
Or shooting a nice trophy buck and when you go to gut him out, he is all full of puss from a arrow that has been sticking in his guts for the past 4 weeks.
Where I live at, my opinion is that they ought to put archery season after rifle season.
09-20-2010, 10:18 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: central and east texas
Posts: 4,894
Well guys, I looked all day yesterday and nothing. No deer and no blood, and no arrow either. I did a grid search of that whole pine stand where he ran into, and some of the hardwoods next to it. I'm wondering if my shot was a bit more forward than I thought and hit the shoulder blade? Or even in-between the blade and spine and missed the lungs entirely? If that happened, is that still a fatal hit with the arrow in him? Just really anxious right now and not sure where to turn or what to do. Love to go back out and look some more but not sure where to start. From where I shot him to the back end of that pine stand has to be almost 7 or 800 yards.
Thanks for all the advice so far.
Thanks for all the advice so far.
no blood because you were in the air and hit him high?
the cavity could have just been filling up, and he didnt dump blood fer awhile..
im sure you tracked up the whole area already?
look in the creeks and the thickets?
most any dog will take you to a dead deer.... so i heard..take fido with you
09-20-2010, 10:53 AM
#26
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 8
well we didn't find any blood at all, i imagine since there wasn't full penetration and the shot was high. i just found out that i know of a guy that has a dog that tracks deer, but not sure how that would work with no blood and it's raining a bit here today. we did a pretty exhaustive search yesterday. does anyone here have experience with tracking dogs and if they would still work with no blood, and with rain after the hit?
09-20-2010, 04:13 PM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,558
If you hit him you should find blood. If you went between the shoulder blade and the spine you got lungs. If you look at the anatomy of a deer the top of the longs connects with a lining to the spine. There is no "void". There is some clue out there at the point of impact. You have to find it. The last buck I shot I found exactly 2 drops of blood in a 150 yards. I went off of tracks and other clues and found him piled up. You can do it. Go find him.
09-20-2010, 04:31 PM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 411
If you know you hit him, you should find some hair, start at this point. Bring toilet paper with you and mark the POI and go from there. Do a circular search from POI until you find the deer or the arrow. He had to of bedded down at night so you should find a large patch of blood where he bed.
Don't give up just yet. It took me three days to find a deer a few years back. It was spoiled by the time I found him but I never gave up, you owe it to the animal to keep looking. If you saw the arrow in him as he fled, then he is hit and you need to keep after it. It is exhausting and frustrating but the reward is great when you find him. Read the After the shot sticky in the bowhunting forum, it has great information.
Don't give up just yet. It took me three days to find a deer a few years back. It was spoiled by the time I found him but I never gave up, you owe it to the animal to keep looking. If you saw the arrow in him as he fled, then he is hit and you need to keep after it. It is exhausting and frustrating but the reward is great when you find him. Read the After the shot sticky in the bowhunting forum, it has great information.