Walmart T-shirt
01-05-2010, 06:32 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,473
The automobile was invented in the US???? Hmmm....
And then you can get an American-made Suhr Pro Series guitar for about $1200 that blows the socks of an American-made Fender. It has to do with the attitude of the company. I guess you could say Fender is as American as you can get...a greedy, sell-out company.
And then you can get an American-made Suhr Pro Series guitar for about $1200 that blows the socks of an American-made Fender. It has to do with the attitude of the company. I guess you could say Fender is as American as you can get...a greedy, sell-out company.
01-05-2010, 08:23 AM
#33
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
My view of free trade is dollar for dollar. Want to dump 10 million dollars of Taiwanese junk here in the US? Then Taiwan needs to take 10 million dollars worth of US made goods - even Steven.
Furthermore, before anything can be sold here we need to be assured that it is manufactured with adequate pollution control so there would need to be changes in production methods along with oversight inspections that would up the bottom line of their production and make things not so lopsided.
And the same oversight would be needed to be verified that no slave or child labor was used in the production.
It's high time that this country starts holding it's own pants up.
Furthermore, before anything can be sold here we need to be assured that it is manufactured with adequate pollution control so there would need to be changes in production methods along with oversight inspections that would up the bottom line of their production and make things not so lopsided.
And the same oversight would be needed to be verified that no slave or child labor was used in the production.
It's high time that this country starts holding it's own pants up.
YOu veiw of even steven is socialism. Guareenteeing companies a market place even when the product is not competitiveis wrong but is why you can buy milk and food produced by the american farmer at rock bottom prices compared to the rest of the world since the Dept of Ag funnels a crap load of your money to farmers to make them viable and keep costs down. The subsidizing of the AMerican farmer keeps developing countries in poverty. Farming is the kingpin to development of a fledgling country. They can't produce and sell food on the market place and survive because of what the American govt does in proping upi the american farmer. Thus we now have to spend billions in foreign aid support countries that we have purposely prohibited from becoming self reliant. Free Trade works both ways.
01-05-2010, 08:29 AM
#34
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
Oh, so what youre saying is, even you just told someone to be "truly american", you shouldnt buy things made overseas, you yourself are typing that very statement, on what is probably a chinese made computer?
I would also imagine that your house and driveway is filled w/ forgien made products, just like rest of the country, so although preaching "buy american" might make you feel good , in reality its just not practical, or even possible. That said, why should someone pay 3X more, than a product is worth, just so we can slap a "made in USA" lable on it, and artifically create a job? The reason why usa made products are so expensive, is not because of evironmental or slave labor restrictions, its because in america, people, many w/ out HS diplomas, feel they deserve 80K a year,5 weeks vacation, and full medical insurace, to slap 2 pieces of plastic together, Im not funding that. I dont think thats why unemployment is at 10.2% anyway, cause 3 years ago it was at 4.5%. Unemployment is high because we have a president who wants to raise taxes on those who create jobs. People dont wanna hear this stuff , they want to hear its the governments freetrade policies, but it just doesnt hold water IMO.
I would also imagine that your house and driveway is filled w/ forgien made products, just like rest of the country, so although preaching "buy american" might make you feel good , in reality its just not practical, or even possible. That said, why should someone pay 3X more, than a product is worth, just so we can slap a "made in USA" lable on it, and artifically create a job? The reason why usa made products are so expensive, is not because of evironmental or slave labor restrictions, its because in america, people, many w/ out HS diplomas, feel they deserve 80K a year,5 weeks vacation, and full medical insurace, to slap 2 pieces of plastic together, Im not funding that. I dont think thats why unemployment is at 10.2% anyway, cause 3 years ago it was at 4.5%. Unemployment is high because we have a president who wants to raise taxes on those who create jobs. People dont wanna hear this stuff , they want to hear its the governments freetrade policies, but it just doesnt hold water IMO.
Your world is about to change (if it hasn't already).
01-05-2010, 08:37 AM
#35
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
We have high unemployement because of a jobs bubble. We created jobs based on a debt laydened consumer that was not buying things with real money (if FRNs are considered real, visit www.goldismoney.info for an awakening), but fake credit. Thus we created fake jobs. Once the fake money was gone, the fake jobs had to leave. Government can't create jobs. Business owners can't create jobs. Only the consumer can. If the consumer will not or cannot spend $$$ then there is no cash flow for a business owner to indirectly "create a job". Taxing the business owner is not the problem. The problem lies in the unadulterated taxing of the consumer at a rate of almost 50-60% of their income when you figure in all the taxes he or she has to pay. What would you be able to do if you had another $20 to $30 thousand dollars in your pocket each and every year??
01-05-2010, 08:37 AM
#36
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 824
The automobile was invented in the US???? Hmmm....
And then you can get an American-made Suhr Pro Series guitar for about $1200 that blows the socks of an American-made Fender. It has to do with the attitude of the company. I guess you could say Fender is as American as you can get...a greedy, sell-out company.
And then you can get an American-made Suhr Pro Series guitar for about $1200 that blows the socks of an American-made Fender. It has to do with the attitude of the company. I guess you could say Fender is as American as you can get...a greedy, sell-out company.
Wow, a little niche nobody guitar company...Greedy sell out? what the hell are you talking about. It's called opportunity, numb nuts..go learn a little about economics
01-05-2010, 08:40 AM
#37
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 564
Back to the original Tee Shirt. This is not meant to offend anyone, but I am sure many will take offense so I am sorry in advance, but it has been my observation that the teeshirt slogans offered at nearly every walmart I have been to tend to cater to the lowest common denominator in society. Just sayin.
01-05-2010, 08:58 AM
#38
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,473
Yeah, when you sacrifice your namesake and quality for money (along with buying up every musical instrument brand you can), it's selling out. There's a REASON Fender guitars of a certain era are so sought after. Same with Gibsons. Of course, you can iconize and market yourself to death so the little sheep will keep buying your crap, thinking it's the best...all because of a name. And that's not to say ALL of Fenders products are crap, because they're not.
And there's more to business and business ethics than the "scientific" side of economics.
01-05-2010, 09:01 AM
#39
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,473
We have high unemployement because of a jobs bubble. We created jobs based on a debt laydened consumer that was not buying things with real money (if FRNs are considered real, visit www.goldismoney.info for an awakening), but fake credit. Thus we created fake jobs. Once the fake money was gone, the fake jobs had to leave. Government can't create jobs. Business owners can't create jobs. Only the consumer can. If the consumer will not or cannot spend $$$ then there is no cash flow for a business owner to indirectly "create a job". Taxing the business owner is not the problem. The problem lies in the unadulterated taxing of the consumer at a rate of almost 50-60% of their income when you figure in all the taxes he or she has to pay. What would you be able to do if you had another $20 to $30 thousand dollars in your pocket each and every year??
We're headed for a real crap storm, and I'm glad I'm somewhat ready for it (at least more prepared than the average person).
01-05-2010, 09:08 AM
#40
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: West Central Illinois
Posts: 1,099
Back to the original Tee Shirt. This is not meant to offend anyone, but I am sure many will take offense so I am sorry in advance, but it has been my observation that the teeshirt slogans offered at nearly every walmart I have been to tend to cater to the lowest common denominator in society. Just sayin.