USe for a brush gun?
11-28-2008, 06:40 PM
#21
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: USe for a brush gun?
The 243 has the best chance of dodging the brush, due to the smaller surface area of the bullet,
The smaller the diameter of the bullet the better it is able to get through brush. There was a test done on this very subject a few years ago. A deer shaped target was set up 10 yards behind a brush pile and everything from .223 to 45-70 was shot through the brush several times to see what the "brush busting" capabilites were for each cartridge. The .22-250 did the best by a large margin due to the bullet being the smallest bullet tested and its high velocity. The larger diameter the bulletand /orthe slower the bulletwas firedthe more it was deflected.
So, out of the ones you have listed the best "brush busting" cartridge would be the .243.
11-29-2008, 06:46 AM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: MA
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RE: USe for a brush gun?
Retieverman....I know each of us care not what the other thinks but I would expect that you would not think buckshot was deadly in the hands of a guy shooting 50 yards with a modified choke and 2 3/4 inch shells and that deer are not birds.
You clearly have a specialized system for using buckshot where as the average guy uses it to make up for lack of shooting ability or a license to take poor shots at moving deer. I was demeaning buckshot primarily due to how I see it being used.
Good luck in the woods Bud and stay safe.
You clearly have a specialized system for using buckshot where as the average guy uses it to make up for lack of shooting ability or a license to take poor shots at moving deer. I was demeaning buckshot primarily due to how I see it being used.
Good luck in the woods Bud and stay safe.
11-29-2008, 08:54 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
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RE: USe for a brush gun?
ORIGINAL: Planter
Retieverman....I know each of us care not what the other thinks but I would expect that you would not think buckshot was deadly in the hands of a guy shooting 50 yards with a modified choke and 2 3/4 inch shells and that deer are not birds.
You clearly have a specialized system for using buckshot where as the average guy uses it to make up for lack of shooting ability or a license to take poor shots at moving deer. I was demeaning buckshot primarily due to how I see it being used.
Retieverman....I know each of us care not what the other thinks but I would expect that you would not think buckshot was deadly in the hands of a guy shooting 50 yards with a modified choke and 2 3/4 inch shells and that deer are not birds.
You clearly have a specialized system for using buckshot where as the average guy uses it to make up for lack of shooting ability or a license to take poor shots at moving deer. I was demeaning buckshot primarily due to how I see it being used.
I understand what you are saying and really wouldn't ordinarily recommend buckshot either, BUT when someone comes on here asking about a "brush gun", my red flag always goes up. I have killed in the neighborhood of 200 deer and NUMEROUS hogs, and I have taken my share of low percentage shots through brush. The outcome has never been good. There is not a rifle caliber out there that is made to shoot through a twig, and in the case of brush hunting, buckshot is the most "logical" choice.
11-29-2008, 09:03 AM
#26
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Shawnee, KS
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RE: USe for a brush gun?
I think the term "brush gun" is a misnomer. When I think of "brush gun" I'm not thinking of something that will not deflect off of a twig (which, as stated by most of you, any caliber will do)I think of a rifle that is short, fast-pointing, a sighting system that allows for quick target acquisition and powerful enough for your quarry out to about 100 yards. To me, that is a marlin 336C in 30-30 caliber for deer.
11-29-2008, 01:28 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Huntin' In Colorado
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RE: USe for a brush gun?
ORIGINAL: MO-KS_hunter
I think the term "brush gun" is a misnomer. When I think of "brush gun" I'm not thinking of something that will not deflect off of a twig (which, as stated by most of you, any caliber will do)I think of a rifle that is short, fast-pointing, a sighting system that allows for quick target acquisition and powerful enough for your quarry out to about 100 yards. To me, that is a marlin 336C in 30-30 caliber for deer.
I think the term "brush gun" is a misnomer. When I think of "brush gun" I'm not thinking of something that will not deflect off of a twig (which, as stated by most of you, any caliber will do)I think of a rifle that is short, fast-pointing, a sighting system that allows for quick target acquisition and powerful enough for your quarry out to about 100 yards. To me, that is a marlin 336C in 30-30 caliber for deer.
11-29-2008, 01:56 PM
#28
Nontypical Buck
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RE: USe for a brush gun?
ORIGINAL: Colorado Luckydog
This is exactly what it means to shoot a brush gun. Anyone looking for a gun to penetrate the brush before it impacts the desired target, should be working on their hunting skills, not a"better brush gun".
ORIGINAL: MO-KS_hunter
I think the term "brush gun" is a misnomer. When I think of "brush gun" I'm not thinking of something that will not deflect off of a twig (which, as stated by most of you, any caliber will do)I think of a rifle that is short, fast-pointing, a sighting system that allows for quick target acquisition and powerful enough for your quarry out to about 100 yards. To me, that is a marlin 336C in 30-30 caliber for deer.
I think the term "brush gun" is a misnomer. When I think of "brush gun" I'm not thinking of something that will not deflect off of a twig (which, as stated by most of you, any caliber will do)I think of a rifle that is short, fast-pointing, a sighting system that allows for quick target acquisition and powerful enough for your quarry out to about 100 yards. To me, that is a marlin 336C in 30-30 caliber for deer.
