goalie

I bought a Mossberg ATR-100 in .270 at Wal-Mart a few years ago. I put a nice Leupold Vari-X III scope on it, and it has shot 1-1.5" groups with Federal Fusion ammo consistantly since I bought it. With handloads, it is right around an inch consistantly.

The trigger is pretty nice, and, for a rifle I drag up behind me into a climbing tree stand, I couldn't be happier. As an added bonus, the rifle comes with a scope base already installed, so you just need a scope, sling and rings to be set for hunting.

As for the caliber choice, the .300 H&H will kill a deer, but so will a .270. If you don't mind the recoil of the .300 H&H, then use it and save the money.

Buck_Slayer

Kick really doesnt bug me much. I guess I have enough padding to take care of most of it. But I have been hunting with a 12 guage for the past 10 years. They just recently opened rifles in our area, and this will be my first year in North Dakota too. I was just thinking with the cost of all of my tags (Out of state for 3 seasons bow, rifle, and waterfowl plus res. rifle and bow, possibly pheasant) and I am going to end up looking for a new shotgun for waterfowl season since mine got stolen last year. I will definately have a .270 for next year, but I just wanted to get some input on the .300 H&H. I know the cartidges are expensive. I was looking for them last year and about crapped. My dad does have a .30-06 too, but I just liked to .300 shooting a little better.

I guess if I end up doing a drive or something through the woods I could carry the .30-06 with open sights. and save the .300 for stand sits? Someday I plan on having more guns that I know what to do with, but until then my options are limited I guess

700xcr

In that case the 300 H&H would do fine. Sounds like the 30-06 does not have a scope on it. Does it have only open sights? The 30-06 will work fine also. This year you may want to spend the money for scope base,rings and scope for the 30-06. For deer use a 150gr. or 165gr. factory load that shoots goodin the 30-06. Natchez Shooter Supplies run specials all the time on rifle scopes. Just another thought.

DGH

As you can tell, you have stirred the biggest "opinion pot" in hunting - whichcaliber and/or rifle is best.So, here are some thoughts. The270, 280 Remington, 7-08, .308, and the 30-06 are all comperable - period. Each of them will achieve 3,000 fps with either 130 (270, 7-08) or 150 grain bullets, and the ballistics for each is close enoughthat neither you, nor the game you hunt,will be able to tell the difference out to400+/-yards.

The mags - 270WSMup throughall ofthe standard 300'sshoot between 200 and 400 fps faster assuming you are shooting identical bullets (i.e. - my 150 grain .308 = 3,000 fps vs my 145 grain 7 mag = 3,250 fps), but require 25 to 40 grains more powder which equals a lot more recoil, but also addsfunctional "cross hairs on meat" distances of about 100 yards.

Me, I own a .308, a 30-06, a 7 rem mag, and a 300 win mag. Ilove all of them,have killed several deer and hogs with each, and have made up to 400 + yard shots with each.I nowshoot the .308 with 150 grain hornady light mags 75% of the time out here in CA.(blacktail, hogs, muleys, black bear). I have retired the 30-06 and the 7 rem mag and carry the 300 as my second rifle.

I guess the point of my rant is - the 270 is as good as any, and better than a lot of them,for deer, black bear, hogs, etc. If you are hunting where you think you need morebullet weight for long range or large animals, or just want more punch, the 300is a great choice too!.It all comes down to you, your hunting area, and what makes you most comfortable when you pull the trigger.

Oh, and if you want to compare ballistics between bullets, or between different calibers, Hornady provides a very good free ballistics calculator which can be found here http://www.hornady.com/ballistics/ballistics_calculator.php

robbcayman

I will say this for the 270, my dad has shot 4 deer with it and all 4 fell where he shot them. I think it is a great round for deer hunting. However, if you aren't taking shots past 200 yards the 30-30 is great for the job (thick woods gun.)

I don't see a need to go any bigger than a 270 IMHO!!!

Buck_Slayer

Consider me retarded. I don't know why I said .30-06 in my last post. He has an open sight .30-30 lever action. That is why I was think that it would be better while stalking through the woods over the scoped .300. I have shot both guns and felt comfortable with both of em. I knew that I would stir up a debate, but I am pretty open minded and like to hear different opinions from everybody. So far so good. Sounds alot like personal preference. I knew the .270 would be a good all around gun, but just wanted to hear some opinions on everything else out there also.

The guy at work told me to tell me friend to ditch the "gopher gun" (my friend shoots a .270) and the guy shoots a .338 with a 200 grain bullet.

maytom

Thinking of going with the 7mm-08 or the .308 in a Savage. This will be my deer rifle now that NY has allowed rifle use in some counties.

Red Lion

You can get away with using the .300 H&H on deer if you wish to. You did say that you werelooking to buy a new rifle and initially looking at the .270. While Ido not even own a .270, it has a fantastic rep and following and would be a great choice.

Buck_Slayer

I think I am gonna go with the .300 H&H for this year, and get a .223 for some yotes this winter..Thanks for all the input guys