ibwhnt

Christine B, Your 100% correct we always learn. I guess when you sit and read all replies you see a little more. Yes I don't like to see outdoor programs when the adult lifts the gun up and then takes the safty of so the kid can shoot. That to me seems like the kid is not ready to handle a high power rifle, and if someone says "that they were ready" their not. They should have to load, handle, and aim all themselves. I beleive that in my state to hunt with a gun you have to have pass a gun safty class, and then you still have to have an adult with you until 14.

kodiakhuntmaster

Christine B,
Those kids probably were pushed into going on those trips. I was never pushed, in fact when I was always told hunting was wrong. So what is the proper way to introduce a child to hunting?

"Hey ya'll, watch this"

Strauser24

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I see many pictures of kids 6, 7, 8, 9 years old who have killed deer. People on my lease let their young kids kill deer. I have always had a problem with this. Why should a kid who is too young to drag a deer out of the woods and clean it, be allowed to kill that same deer? Isn't there some type of responsibility that goes with killing an animal? Doesn't this foster sloppy hunting ethics? I had to hunt with my dad WITHOUT a firearm until I was old enough to field dress a deer and clean it myself. It seems like parents today are so caught up in trying to get their kids a deer they are forgetting to teach them the basics. To me, it is nothing more than a target range if all the kid has to do is pull the trigger while daddy holds the gun steady. Any thoughts?
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Christine B

KHM, You are asking me?? I am 46 years old, and have been hunting seriously for only 13 years, I am far from/never will be an expert....make no claims to be.
I was a pre-school teacher for many years before I started hunting.....and can tell you this, and it can/ will differ from child to chiild. The same for adults and their learning abilities!!
I was asked this past year by a county law enforcement official, if I would consider being a firearms safety instructor here, and I made the choice not to do so....... quite simply because many feel that once they take &quot;the&quot; course for their CCW permit...it gives them free reign, and they are automatic experts on firearms. Sure they may know the mechanics, and operation, even be able to shoot.....a class does not give them the responsiblity, or the judgement that goes with firearms use...that is also an individual thing...and perhaps off topic here. So.....

All that I can say with my son being so young, is that he has shown an interest in the outdoors, and hunting. Hunting primarily(IMHO at this point in time) because he knows that is something that &quot;mama&quot; does every year. I hunted even when I was 8 months pregnant with him. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> He has only seen me drag one in and that was when he was almost 3. He still shows an interest.....will it pass with time, or grow?? Who knows??? I am not certain.
I do know this, ....it will be different with every parent, and every child as we are all individuals to what is taught, and what is learned.
For now I am satisfied that he truly enjoys the woods, has learned many individual tracks, and sign, and is simply satisfied with the enjoyment of being &quot;out there&quot;, learning about the animals that live there, and the wild foods that can be found there. I will continue to teach him as is appropriate for his age, and answer his questions accordingly when he asks them. What I have stated are just my thoughts....what pertains to you, or anyone else may or may not be entirely different.
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Thanks for keeping it civil, and interesting folks. Good thread so far....



Edited by - Christine B on 01/10/2003 21:44:48

soarkrebel

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and I made the choice not to do so....... quite simply because many feel that once they take &quot;the&quot; course for their CCW
permit...it gives them free reign, and they are automatic experts on firearms. Sure they may know the mechanics, and
operation, even be able to shoot.....a class does not give them the responsiblity, or the judgement that goes with firearms
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Christine that is why i never got my license to teach CCW. i got the packet from the ASP and i fit the criteria but i don't want the responsibility.
I carried a gun for 5 years and taught many cops or really just ran a indoor range while they shot.
Its kind of like i mess with guns people are always asking me to look at a gun. i don't do that either cause i don't want the responsibility. hey am i shunning away from responsibility??
(ok i went off topic also)

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brt

IF u dont take kids hunting before they get to old they will not have interest in the sport of hunting deer,rabbit,quail,turkey etc and the the activist who want to gun control are one step closer to getting what they want. This means the end of all types of hunting and gun ownership. Its our right to enjoy the outdoors. Just because u take a kid hunting doesnt mean he/she has to shoot its all part of the learning process. My son sat in a deer blind at 2years old not to actually hunt but observe game and their habits. He is now 12 and after all the years of watching deer is a very responsible hunter and
this year decided he was ready to harvest his first deer which turned out to be a very nice 11pt buck of which he is very proud of. He is a safe/responsible/ethical hunter and there is a difference. And yes I did a shoulder mount for him something i never had done for me because
I learn everything about deer hunting as and adult from my father in law now deceased but will pass on the knowledge to my own children because my dad never hunted deer before.

Striper Phil

Codydawg, Thanks for putting it just as I think it should be. I don't want to get abusive but Soarkreble you need help and your child needs outside assistance. Its people who think 8 year olds are better trained than adults who are risking lives. It will come, and I hope not, but childeren with guns are a time bomb waiting to happen and parents who think this ois OK are worse. Get Help!!!

Sorry Moderators I Had to vent beforew tragedy hits.

Ky Trophy

I think that if the kid wants to hunt and has the responsibility to handle a gun, then let him go at it. I know I grew up around guns and started hunting when i was 8. You want to talk about sloppy hunting ethics what about the grown men who go out and shoot deer just for the heck of it. And what about the ones who if they dont drop a deer wont even go try and track it down. These are the people you need to getting angry about and leave the little kids alone. They are out there having the time of their lives. So what if they cant drag a deer. I killed my first deer when I was 12. You all got aproblem with that. Think im not responsible enough? I'm only 15 but i bet I am more responsibe than alot of grown me out in the woods with a rifle. We'll thats all I got to say.

buck-i

kodiak you the next time you teach the safty class ask someone about your states reg on carrying a bb gun while hunting. oklahoma thats a nono.if a kid passes the safty course and shows to you he saftly can shoot that gun he should be able to hunt with an adult right next to him..****ep learning from every hunt some adultssay to young to gut a deer to young to hunt but i bet they cut their babys meat for them i know i do.ask the adults where all the beer cans you see on the side of the road or in the woods come from.im 38 i love hunting and fishing with young ones. ive had a cross bow turned on me while walking to my car the forty year old man heard me snap a twig and turned to me with bow in ready position i ducked no shot fired .some adults with guns are timebombs too.SOARKREBEL is doing it right good job,

soarkrebel

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Codydawg, Thanks for putting it just as I think it should be. I don't want to get abusive but Soarkreble you need help and
your child needs outside assistance. Its people who think 8 year olds are better trained than adults who are risking lives. It
will come, and I hope not, but childeren with guns are a time bomb waiting to happen and parents who think this ois OK are
worse. Get Help!!!

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Striper phil your pretty funny you know! my kid is twelve and will be thirteen in june. he's not old enough to hunt?
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Sounds like way to many young kids 7 to 10 year olds hunting. When I hear parents describing 7 year olds as responsible
hunters I have to wonder? I actually thought most states had a 12 year old restriction to have an accompanied liscense!!! I
don't see how a 7 year old can pass a 100 question hunter safety test. So when your are old enough to go to the safety
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This is your post ,in my state once he passed the hunter ed he can hunt on his own. he made a hundred on the test and yes i was with him even though i took hunter ed in colorado!
Heck i was hunting alone at his age and i haven't blown up..........yet! so watch out!!
And heck i have had a crazy people doctor say i am fit to carry a gun ..have you??????

Now i am not going to stoop to your level but you can say anything you want about me . but don't talk about my son!!!!
What makes you the expert on this ??
Are you a child pychologist?
I could have responded to your rudeness many ways but if i call you names and make outrageous acusations about your sanity( cough)i will be no better than you apperently are!!!!!!!

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