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Old 11-22-2002, 07:04 AM
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I just wanted to let you all know about my first day of rifle season in Upstate New York. I was set up on some private land by the Cannonsville Reservoir that I was previously bow hunting on, and the evening before opening day, a group of New Jersey hunters were up and took it upon themselves to remove my portable treestand off of the private land that I was hunting on. They did not even ask the land owner for permission. Instead they intimidated him and left my treestand on the road. I talked to them the previous day, out of courtesy and safety concerns, and there was not a problem. I told them exactly where I had been hunting during bow season, and left it at that. I thought everything was fine. I spent all day sunday helping my buddy post some private land up by oquaga lake only to return home wet, exausted, and cold with the news that the "city hunters" pulled a fast one on me. I went up and retrieved my stand in the dark, (luckily it was still there) My 10 year old son was with me asking me why I am not hunting there on opening day, I just told him that there are some people that are very greedy and not real sportsmen
in the woods and I would have to find another place to hunt. I think I did the right thing by leaving and not returning. This particular group of hnters trespass all over on private land without permission to do so. They also own 25 acres of their own. That htey don't seem to hunt on) I do not need to hunt around people like that, so I went elsewhere. It just pains me to think that they probably killed the little does and button bucks up there without giving them a chance to get bigger and smarter. People like them guys make us all look bad. I'd just as soon not hunt anywhere near them. I am deaf, so hunting is a real challenge to me. I also own property on the west branch of the delaware river where I let everybody and anybody have access to the river to fish for the world famous browns. I have met many great sportsmen, celebrities, and folks from all over the planet. All the property is posted all around, except for mine. I made the right decision. I feel that I am a true sportsman and I would not trade taht for anything in the world.
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Old 11-22-2002, 07:26 AM
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Ohhhh that just chaps my hide!!! I can't stand it when I hear about trespassers. It just gets me burning. Is there no law against trespassing in New York??? I would have been on the phone in an instant to the local DNR agent to report the instance. A couple of years ago I had one of our neighbors come driving on to our land. I wouldn't have minded if they would have just come walking in(they were looking for a wounded deer) but they were driving all over out in the field ruining the hunt for me. What made me more upset was that I got out of my stand to go see who it was and they just took off. I ran all the way across the 80 acres I was hunting before I caught up to them and then they just said they didn't see me. (I was wearing blaze orange as is the state law here so I couldn't see how they couldnt' see a huge orange blob come running at them) We've had people try to take deer from us that we've shot on our land and they've come in trying to get a shot at a deer. There's enough public ground out there. Long story short please report trespassers. Sorry but I had to vent.
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Old 11-22-2002, 07:29 AM
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I'm from upstate ny and kind of the same thing happened to me. We own a cabin thats about 350' behind our house, are house is next to the road. My family and I like to go down to the cabin on the weekends we play games and do the family thing down there. One saturday morning my wife and I got up and started moving about getting the fire stoked etc... when we notice a truck in our driveway. The pickup was a crew cab with a cap on the back. 4 guys got out of the back and 5 got out of the front with there guns and gear.. I asked if I could help them They said no and started to go passed me towards our cabin. So I asked what they thought they were doing? One of them said whats it look like we're going hunting. I said the he%@ you are this is my land (huge 5 acres). They said there are no signs that say its posted. I was getting real P*%# off by now so I told them to get the h#@$ off my property. They climbed back in there truck and started to leave then stoped and got out again. This time they went across the road This property is private also. Once again I asked what they thought they were doing same answer. I'ld told them I was going in to call the cops this made them leave. On there way out they told me I'ld better learn the law before being such a jerk. They said that they bought ther hunting lic. and that that gave them the right to hunt where ever they wanted. Its hard to believe how stupid, and disrespective some people can be.
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Old 11-22-2002, 07:38 AM
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In NY, your land does not have to be posted.

From the NY DEC website

Q. Must I post to keep people off my property?

A. No. Trespassing is illegal even on unposted property, unless it is unimproved, apparently unused and unfenced (or not otherwise enclosed to exclude intruders.) Even on vacant land, a written notice delivered in person (or by certified mail with a signed receipt, etc.) to any person, in the name of the landowner or authorized party, containing a description of the premises and a warning of restrictions which apply has the same effect, for that person, as if the land were posted with those restrictions. Likewise, anyone asked to leave the premises, posted or not, by the landowner, occupant or other authorized person, must do so immediately.
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Old 11-22-2002, 09:26 AM
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You fellas need to stop playing Mr Nice Guy to these scum.
Let them go hunt, then call the police and explain they were threatening you. Let them get hit with that, in addition to the tresspassing.
If that was my house, their truck would have been towed, and THEN the police called and charged with tresspassing. Let them walk to the impoundment.
In my experience hunting out of state a bit, local police have little tolerance for out of staters breaking the law, messing with the lcoal families. The'll love notthing better than to lock some of us Jersey &quot;slickers&quot; <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Don't give up so easily, have them arrested.


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Old 11-22-2002, 10:04 AM
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I dont know how the game warden is in your parts, but once I had some guys cutting my fence and hunting on my property. I made one simple call to the game warden. He keep his eye on my property and caught the treaspassers. He took them right to jail. I asked if I had to press charges and he said no because he caught them in the act and would take care of it. I have never had a problem scence.

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Old 11-22-2002, 10:10 AM
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Sounds like ya need to call the game warden!
And I know the feeling you have about the hearing part. I laugh each time some one says, &quot;man heard that deer tareing up a tree just before he came runnin in&quot; I have never heard a deer..ever!

Hurry up and wait.
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Old 11-22-2002, 10:23 AM
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According to my local CO, in Minnesota, the #1 complaint he gets every year is trespassing. I teach a firearm safety class and hit the trespassing point pretty good. I have to give you guys who are deaf a lot of credit. After reading your post, I thought back to my deer hunt this year and I would guess I heard approximately 1/3 of them before I saw them (I hunt in a hardwood forest). If I did not have my hearing, wow, would that be hard!! Kudos to you folks, keep it up and you really should share your stories/successes with others so they can see how successful you are and aren't afraid of trying hunting due to a loss of hearing or similar issue.
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Old 11-22-2002, 10:40 AM
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I'm glad to see others that are so addament against trespassing as I am. I get so burned when I see trespassing and hear about it. I love your idea 6ptsika!!!
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Old 11-22-2002, 12:30 PM
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Yall will get a kick out of what the game warden did to the guys treaspassing on my land. He filed charges agianst them for treaspassing, vandalism of property, fence cuting, and someother things I cant remember. I think he proved his point.

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