mouth calling
03-15-2006 | 11:04 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: PA
mouth calling
i need some help.....i cant use a mouthcall to save my life...i tried a few but just cant make much use of them...last year i actually got OK at it....and was using a screaming green or something....you know the all green ones...they sell them at walmart forget who makes them...but i got OK...i could yelp half the time OK....i liked it because i could call and not be seen....but for the time i practiced i should been a pro! lol....i can make noises...just not good ones....anyone able to help?? and recomend a good sounding call thats fairly easy to use?? i want to atleast yelp and cluck...and beable to make softer and louder calls....the old call i lost was HARD to use....and was either loud or no noise at all...anyone able to help?? thanx guys....
03-15-2006 | 12:56 PM
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From: Sugar Grove NC USA
RE: mouth calling
HAHA it sounds like you have put in the time all right. Mouth calling is not that difficult, especially to be able to call well enough to go to the woods.I don't think that your problem is necessarily the brand or type of calls you are using because you should be able to get a basic yelp, raspy or not, on just about anything. However, I believe that apremium mouth call, sold by a smaller company, will give you way better sound than a mass produced by a larger company like you'll find at Wal-mart. You need to either invest in a video, orget help in person from someone who can blow a call well. Thats what I would do, is get a person to help me 1 on 1.
I will suggest a couple calls that I believe will change your luck...My favoritemouth call to hunt with, and yelp in competitions is LegacyGame Calls "Wild Hunter."IT is a V cut call, and you will find that a V-cut is perhaps the most popular and versatile cut of mout hcall out there. Check out any of the Legacy Calls, I believe they are the best out there. www.gameacc.net.
Remember that mouth calling is several things, air and tongue pressure, call placement in the mouth, and movement of your jaw as awell. The yelpis really a two-note sound...KEEUCK or CHEEUCK. You drop into the low note by dropping your jaw with steady air pressure.It's hard to teach by typing but i hope this helps.
If the call doesn't even feel right in your mouth, you may try trimming thetape to fit your mouth better. Hope this helps. Good luck! You know its not rocket science when most turkey hunters are just good ole boys like me!
I will suggest a couple calls that I believe will change your luck...My favoritemouth call to hunt with, and yelp in competitions is LegacyGame Calls "Wild Hunter."IT is a V cut call, and you will find that a V-cut is perhaps the most popular and versatile cut of mout hcall out there. Check out any of the Legacy Calls, I believe they are the best out there. www.gameacc.net.
Remember that mouth calling is several things, air and tongue pressure, call placement in the mouth, and movement of your jaw as awell. The yelpis really a two-note sound...KEEUCK or CHEEUCK. You drop into the low note by dropping your jaw with steady air pressure.It's hard to teach by typing but i hope this helps.
If the call doesn't even feel right in your mouth, you may try trimming thetape to fit your mouth better. Hope this helps. Good luck! You know its not rocket science when most turkey hunters are just good ole boys like me!
03-15-2006 | 01:48 PM
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Typical Buck
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From: Jackson, TN
RE: mouth calling
If you are getting better then you should be able to make a basic yelp with any type of call (unless the reeds are stuck or torn). Some folks just can't do it. It took me a little while but I learn just by practice and persistence. The cadence and rhythm are just as important as the sound, so get some tapes and make sure you are doing it correctly.
I would echo the comments about finding some calls from smaller manufacturers. They seem to sound the same from call to call as opposed to mass-produced. I met the Legecy folks at the NWTF recently. I have the Legecy "Fatal Attraction", which is a four-reed call with an inverted V-cut on one side. I like it a lot and it seems well made. Try the XL-3000 from Empire Calls in Liverpool, NY (315-652-3965), which has a high-pitchedinitial sound that breaks into a raspy yelp. I also found some nice calls from Dynamic calls out of Dacula, GA (www.dynamiccalls.com). They sold me some prototypes of a new call they were making called "The Lap Dance". It is really sweet.
I would echo the comments about finding some calls from smaller manufacturers. They seem to sound the same from call to call as opposed to mass-produced. I met the Legecy folks at the NWTF recently. I have the Legecy "Fatal Attraction", which is a four-reed call with an inverted V-cut on one side. I like it a lot and it seems well made. Try the XL-3000 from Empire Calls in Liverpool, NY (315-652-3965), which has a high-pitchedinitial sound that breaks into a raspy yelp. I also found some nice calls from Dynamic calls out of Dacula, GA (www.dynamiccalls.com). They sold me some prototypes of a new call they were making called "The Lap Dance". It is really sweet.
03-15-2006 | 01:53 PM
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From: Sugar Grove NC USA
RE: mouth calling
MC,
Fatal Attraction is what I cut and flydown cackle on in comps...I love it. Try a Wild hunter if you want a call that is easy to blow and great for a hunting call. "Ladies Night" is great as well. I hope to try William's new calls for this year soonas well
Fatal Attraction is what I cut and flydown cackle on in comps...I love it. Try a Wild hunter if you want a call that is easy to blow and great for a hunting call. "Ladies Night" is great as well. I hope to try William's new calls for this year soonas well
03-15-2006 | 11:32 PM
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From: PA
RE: mouth calling
thanx guys....i actually put in a good bit of time trying to master it....i try every year before the season till im frustrated..last year i felt comfortable to keep it in my mouth JUST incase.....well....i used it alot in the woods last year....gobblers responded to it dang good...and i felt i sounded like CRAP...i played with mouth calls alot....i know how to make noise and all.....just seems that its not a very good noise...ill hafta buy one and play around.....a local bait shop i should be at in the next few days should have some small company ones around....i can make most any sound on my slates and box calls....just want something to work them in if i need...if i can make a nice sounding yelp by the season id be happy! lol...thanx alot guys....ill keep trying...and see if i cant find a video....
03-16-2006 | 01:02 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: NY
RE: mouth calling
ORIGINAL: wholelottagobble
HAHA it sounds like you have put in the time all right. Mouth calling is not that difficult, especially to be able to call well enough to go to the woods.I don't think that your problem is necessarily the brand or type of calls you are using because you should be able to get a basic yelp, raspy or not, on just about anything. However, I believe that apremium mouth call, sold by a smaller company, will give you way better sound than a mass produced by a larger company like you'll find at Wal-mart. You need to either invest in a video, orget help in person from someone who can blow a call well. Thats what I would do, is get a person to help me 1 on 1.
I will suggest a couple calls that I believe will change your luck...My favoritemouth call to hunt with, and yelp in competitions is LegacyGame Calls "Wild Hunter."IT is a V cut call, and you will find that a V-cut is perhaps the most popular and versatile cut of mout hcall out there. Check out any of the Legacy Calls, I believe they are the best out there. www.gameacc.net.
Remember that mouth calling is several things, air and tongue pressure, call placement in the mouth, and movement of your jaw as awell. The yelpis really a two-note sound...KEEUCK or CHEEUCK. You drop into the low note by dropping your jaw with steady air pressure.It's hard to teach by typing but i hope this helps.
If the call doesn't even feel right in your mouth, you may try trimming thetape to fit your mouth better. Hope this helps. Good luck! You know its not rocket science when most turkey hunters are just good ole boys like me!
HAHA it sounds like you have put in the time all right. Mouth calling is not that difficult, especially to be able to call well enough to go to the woods.I don't think that your problem is necessarily the brand or type of calls you are using because you should be able to get a basic yelp, raspy or not, on just about anything. However, I believe that apremium mouth call, sold by a smaller company, will give you way better sound than a mass produced by a larger company like you'll find at Wal-mart. You need to either invest in a video, orget help in person from someone who can blow a call well. Thats what I would do, is get a person to help me 1 on 1.
I will suggest a couple calls that I believe will change your luck...My favoritemouth call to hunt with, and yelp in competitions is LegacyGame Calls "Wild Hunter."IT is a V cut call, and you will find that a V-cut is perhaps the most popular and versatile cut of mout hcall out there. Check out any of the Legacy Calls, I believe they are the best out there. www.gameacc.net.
Remember that mouth calling is several things, air and tongue pressure, call placement in the mouth, and movement of your jaw as awell. The yelpis really a two-note sound...KEEUCK or CHEEUCK. You drop into the low note by dropping your jaw with steady air pressure.It's hard to teach by typing but i hope this helps.
If the call doesn't even feel right in your mouth, you may try trimming thetape to fit your mouth better. Hope this helps. Good luck! You know its not rocket science when most turkey hunters are just good ole boys like me!
03-16-2006 | 07:34 AM
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Typical Buck
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From: Jackson, TN
RE: mouth calling
Wholelottagobble
My only problem with the Legecy call is that the reeds tend to stick really bad. I don't like using toothpicks for fear of tearing the reeds. I don't know if its the rubber they yse or mysaliva. Do you have the same problem.
I would be interested in trying that wild hunter and ladies night. For years I only used calls that were very raspy, but lately have begun to like the sound of a higher pitch on the first part of the yelp which breaks into a raspy second sound. Make sense? Do these calls do that?
Thanks
My only problem with the Legecy call is that the reeds tend to stick really bad. I don't like using toothpicks for fear of tearing the reeds. I don't know if its the rubber they yse or mysaliva. Do you have the same problem.
I would be interested in trying that wild hunter and ladies night. For years I only used calls that were very raspy, but lately have begun to like the sound of a higher pitch on the first part of the yelp which breaks into a raspy second sound. Make sense? Do these calls do that?
Thanks
03-16-2006 | 07:42 AM
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From: Sugar Grove NC USA
RE: mouth calling
Yes, both those calls are just what you are looking for. When you are done calling, take your call and seprate the reeds and dip in a bowl or run some water to wash some of the spit out. That will help with the sticking. I use round edge toothpics to store for long periods, but a latex reed can take a lot of stretching. Its hard to rip them. Also, a lot of people love "Prized Possession" for the 2 note yelp you are talking about. ButI sound much better on Wild hunter. Good luck.
03-16-2006 | 11:08 PM
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From: PA
RE: mouth calling
well..i got to that little baitshop/turkey hunting shop today....we have a local company call Talkin Stick...the bait shop is associated with them i believe...they sell their stuff....and they are putting on a calling seminar at the end of the month at the shop......i bought one of their mouthcalls...think its 3 or 4 reeds with an inverted V cut....and bought a Southland (or something south..lol)2 reed call....supposed to be "easy to use and learn on.." the 2reed call sure does blow easy...im still in the same boat as last time i tried.....just something ill have to practice at i guess....i made a few series of half decint yelps while trying not to wreck driving lol....think i got the clucking down...just kinda filling my mouth with air with my lips sealed and letting it out quickly...heck i almost got purrs too...i read another post about purring and was playing with vibrating my tounge...almost got that.....a little practice and purrs and clucks should come.....now for that pesky YELP!...its my tounge pressure and the way i drop my jaw i think...everything says to make a KEEOAK type noise....i can do it fine without a call in my mouth and it seems to be right....now to put it all together.....alot of practice and i should be making some half decint noises before the season.....thanxguys