thanx guys....i actually put in a good bit of time trying to master it....i try every year before the season till im frustrated..last year i felt comfortable to keep it in my mouth JUST incase.....well....i used it alot in the woods last year....gobblers responded to it dang good...and i felt i sounded like CRAP...i played with mouth calls alot....i know how to make noise and all.....just seems that its not a very good noise...ill hafta buy one and play around.....a local bait shop i should be at in the next few days should have some small company ones around....i can make most any sound on my slates and box calls....just want something to work them in if i need...if i can make a nice sounding yelp by the season id be happy! lol...thanx alot guys....ill keep trying...and see if i cant find a video....