new to traditional
12-11-2006 | 07:51 AM
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new to traditional
***I meant to post this in traditional. Can anyone help me move it over there?****
Good morning guys,
I have been bowhunting with a compound for five years now and I am looking for that extra challenge. I am going to try to shoot a recurve next year and I am looking for some advice. Does anyone know of any good books, articles, post, etc. I am on my own to learn since noone I know hunts with trad gear.
Also, I recently bought 3 bows for $30 from a guy I know. One is a Fred Bear longbow, one is a pac king or pac rite takedown recurve, and the other is aben pearsonpro hunter I like thepearson recurveas it feels nice in my hand and has nice looking wood,but are any of these worth a darn? If not no big deal as I will turn them into bowfishing rigs.
Guys as you can tell I am brand new to this. Any info at all you guys would feel necessary would be greatly appreciated.
Justin
Good morning guys,
I have been bowhunting with a compound for five years now and I am looking for that extra challenge. I am going to try to shoot a recurve next year and I am looking for some advice. Does anyone know of any good books, articles, post, etc. I am on my own to learn since noone I know hunts with trad gear.
Also, I recently bought 3 bows for $30 from a guy I know. One is a Fred Bear longbow, one is a pac king or pac rite takedown recurve, and the other is aben pearsonpro hunter I like thepearson recurveas it feels nice in my hand and has nice looking wood,but are any of these worth a darn? If not no big deal as I will turn them into bowfishing rigs.
Guys as you can tell I am brand new to this. Any info at all you guys would feel necessary would be greatly appreciated.
Justin
12-13-2006 | 03:32 PM
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RE: new to traditional
Justin,
You will probably get better response at Tradgang.com or Archery Talk Traditional forums.
A couple of books that you can get are Ferguson's "Become the Arrow" and "Instinctive Archery Insights".
Compound shooting is my first love, but sometimes it's fun just to fling arrow from a simple stick& string.
You will probably get better response at Tradgang.com or Archery Talk Traditional forums.
A couple of books that you can get are Ferguson's "Become the Arrow" and "Instinctive Archery Insights".
Compound shooting is my first love, but sometimes it's fun just to fling arrow from a simple stick& string.
12-15-2006 | 05:23 AM
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RE: new to traditional
Welcome to the trad world!
ick Welsch volume two.
But the best one out there right nowis Masters of the Barebow cd, you can get it at 3rviers.
I have a bunch of internet articles that will also really help, but I won't be on that computer till Monday, I'll send you the links then.
ick Welsch volume two.
But the best one out there right nowis Masters of the Barebow cd, you can get it at 3rviers.
I have a bunch of internet articles that will also really help, but I won't be on that computer till Monday, I'll send you the links then.
12-15-2006 | 07:59 AM
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RE: new to traditional
I would recommend Rick Welch Volume II over Masters of the Barebow.... I have both and while Masters of the Barebow is informative, it did not really teach me anything.....
I also recommend Rick McKinney's The Simple Art of Winning...
If you are wanting info on instinctive shooting, I'd probably go with G. Fred Asbell....
Personally I think you should begin with McKinney.
I also recommend Rick McKinney's The Simple Art of Winning...
If you are wanting info on instinctive shooting, I'd probably go with G. Fred Asbell....
Personally I think you should begin with McKinney.
12-15-2006 | 08:23 AM
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RE: new to traditional
Any of those bows should work just fine--great price on them!
I like Byron Ferguson's "Become the Arrow" and Ricky Welch's "Instinctive Archery, volume II". I have "Master's of the Barebow" on the way, but haven't seen it yet.What I was told by one of the folks involved with it goes right along with what DC said--none of the segments are long enough to really get into the mechanics of shooting. I was also told (by a top shooter that knows Ricky) that all his "secrets" aren't divulged in "Instinctive Archery", but it does have some good info to get started.
Like most anything else, you will find a whole lot of opinion. There is no one perfect style for everyone, but the basics are the same--consistency, well tuned equipment, and a draw weight you are in control of comfortably.
Nothing personal against G. Fred, but I don't recommend his books or videos. The reason being his style is difficult to be consistent with, and hard to tell if you are being consistent, since the shot is all one constant motion using his technique. I wouldn't worry about "instinctive" right off the bat--it's usually easier to learn with some sort of referance (gap, point of aim, etc.). If you learn this way, you can gradually move on to instinctive if you want--it will come naturally.
If you can, get out to some tournaments this summer--you may find you aren't as alone as you think. I thought the same thing when I got started, and after I started going to tournaments I learned there were several others in my area.One of them wound up being one of my best friends, and has been for many years now.
Good luck!
Chad
I like Byron Ferguson's "Become the Arrow" and Ricky Welch's "Instinctive Archery, volume II". I have "Master's of the Barebow" on the way, but haven't seen it yet.What I was told by one of the folks involved with it goes right along with what DC said--none of the segments are long enough to really get into the mechanics of shooting. I was also told (by a top shooter that knows Ricky) that all his "secrets" aren't divulged in "Instinctive Archery", but it does have some good info to get started.
Like most anything else, you will find a whole lot of opinion. There is no one perfect style for everyone, but the basics are the same--consistency, well tuned equipment, and a draw weight you are in control of comfortably.
Nothing personal against G. Fred, but I don't recommend his books or videos. The reason being his style is difficult to be consistent with, and hard to tell if you are being consistent, since the shot is all one constant motion using his technique. I wouldn't worry about "instinctive" right off the bat--it's usually easier to learn with some sort of referance (gap, point of aim, etc.). If you learn this way, you can gradually move on to instinctive if you want--it will come naturally.
If you can, get out to some tournaments this summer--you may find you aren't as alone as you think. I thought the same thing when I got started, and after I started going to tournaments I learned there were several others in my area.One of them wound up being one of my best friends, and has been for many years now.
Good luck!
Chad
12-15-2006 | 08:32 AM
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RE: new to traditional
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Nothing personal against G. Fred, but I don't recommend his books or videos. The reason being his style is difficult to be consistent with, and hard to tell if you are being consistent, since the shot is all one constant motion using his technique. I wouldn't worry about "instinctive" right off the bat--it's usually easier to learn with some sort of referance (gap, point of aim, etc.). If you learn this way, you can gradually move on to instinctive if you want--it will come naturally.
Chad
Nothing personal against G. Fred, but I don't recommend his books or videos. The reason being his style is difficult to be consistent with, and hard to tell if you are being consistent, since the shot is all one constant motion using his technique. I wouldn't worry about "instinctive" right off the bat--it's usually easier to learn with some sort of referance (gap, point of aim, etc.). If you learn this way, you can gradually move on to instinctive if you want--it will come naturally.
Chad
I agree 100%, I just didn't want to be the guy to crush someone's instinctive archery dreams
12-18-2006 | 07:00 AM
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RE: new to traditional
Internet Articles (not in any particular order):
http://www.centenaryarchers.gil.com.au/the10.htm#Stance
http://romancingtherecurve.com/
http://www.bowshow.com/artsci.htm
http://skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/ArrowMisses1.htm
http://www.stickbow.com/stickbow/shooting/
http://domino.htcomp.net/bhn/columnists.nsf/0/8f3701cb9b6993348625659a0018a52d?OpenDocument
http://www.skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/Basic%20Archery%20Shooting%20Technique.htm
http://www.hunting101.com/gunsandbows/bows/bowhunting%20equipment%20and%20skills008.htm
http://www.centenaryarchers.gil.com.au/the10.htm#Stance
http://romancingtherecurve.com/
http://www.bowshow.com/artsci.htm
http://skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/ArrowMisses1.htm
http://www.stickbow.com/stickbow/shooting/
http://domino.htcomp.net/bhn/columnists.nsf/0/8f3701cb9b6993348625659a0018a52d?OpenDocument
http://www.skookumarchers.com/Archery%20Library/Basic%20Archery%20Shooting%20Technique.htm
http://www.hunting101.com/gunsandbows/bows/bowhunting%20equipment%20and%20skills008.htm
12-18-2006 | 01:57 PM
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RE: new to traditional
Hi, I am going the other way now, ha-ha. I hurt my shoulder at work and am force to for now. Well, let me first tell you that you will have a great and challenging, but fun journey. I like you read all I could, bought bunch of video's, researched it. Of course loved every part of it. But I would say that with all the good advice out there and information, "hunting the Hard Way", by the great Howard Hill was the best. Mr. Ferguson's book is good, but can confuse a guy. There really is only three things to do, first get a cheap dependable recurve, which you have, go to a pro shop like Lone Wolf traditional supply, talk to them on phone or person, get some arrow's and tackle. Go to club and/or get target to shoot in safe area. Then SHOOT!!!! Fred Asabell has a good book and video out too. But, you have to practice, I am talking every other day for a dozen of arrows or two, and concentrate on each one, or one arrow shot and pulled 12-24 times is even better. Stand at 10 yards, Practice till your technique, anchor, release yada-yada is perfect. Then after few weeks or month, get some stickers, from store about one inch around place on target as Mr Byron Ferguson suggest in "Becoming the Arrow". Walk back two yards and practice. Let me know if I can help anymore?
todd mendenhall
todd mendenhall
