Jeff I must say you are a hell of a smart person if Im allowed to say H--- on here. I get a good laugh and good insight from your bow reports, Does darton still make some long ATA bows, if so do you think it would be a good idea purchasing a darton? What are their prices like these days. Im looking for a hunting 3-D bow for later this year, Im may go to Merlin, If I can afford it. But Ive heard good things about darton.
Good shooting.
Dylan.

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Len-

Norb is from the Milwaukee area here in Wisconsin and I usually see him at our big archery/deer convention in Madison. He is supposed to be putting out a extensive article on arrow penetration (KE, momentum, etc...) that I'm looking forward to reading- if you remember, maybe ask him when that will be coming out....

can somebody give me a price on the new rampage please?
and what about the darton cyclone 3d? anybody ever owned or
shot one? it should be a shootin machine!

bogobble-

I owned a Cyclone 3D and it is an incredible bow- I kind of regret selling it. Forgiving brace height, very accurate, decent speed, silky smooth CPS cam. If I was only allowed ONE bow to do all my hunting, 3D, spot, and field shooting- that would certainly be one of my final choices.

Jeff, you are really confusing me! Yesterday it seemed like a good idea to look for a used Defiant, now today, it's a Maverick. I have shot Dartons off and on for several years. The first time I shot one was a Viper that I shot along side a Hoyt Superslam. The arrows that shot so well from my #65 Bear First Strike looked like wet noodles coming off of that Viper. It was a little noisy compared to the Hoyt (which I bought, unfortunately).
Within 6 months, I saved up enough to buy an Excel which quickly became my #1 bow and made the Hoyt expendable. To make a long story short, I bought a new Viper two years ago, and somehow, they made them much quieter, even before I put on the limbsavers and leeches. My Viper is easily the 2nd quietest compound I have owned (next to a Carbon Force by HCA. My latest bow is one that I really like a lot. It is a Proline Mountain Bow with the ultra-smooth drawing CPS 2. Very nice bow to shoot with its 7" brace and a very torque free riser. I was always leery of short bows, but this one is 36" (not really that short anymore) and is the best shooting bow I have owned yet. Just wondering if it is OK to post a boring (but not as long) bow report when I get my Discovery? Keep up the great work, always interesting to read your posts.

Avoid the inevitable until it is absolutely unavoidable!

www.dartonarchery.com I put this up so I dont have to leave bbs to look at the dartons.
Does anyone have prices on the executive, cyclone, any other longer ATA with a 27" draw ability, deflex riser?
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Edited by - 55#recurve on 01/09/2002 11:20:15

I have a Maverick Express Recurve CPS 70 lbs with limb savers, peep, and new Winners Choice strings in excellent condition that I will sell for $320 including shipping if anybody is interested. The only reason for selling is I have 5 bows and need to sell some to play with some more. By the way JeffBs report was right on in every way, a really excellent report.

thanks black frog!!