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Old 08-12-2008 | 09:50 PM
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This might sound llike a crazy question but can all broadheads be alighned the ths veins. I get the best placed shot on my muzzy that is alighned with my veins but I cant seem to get the other two to alighn the same.
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Old 08-13-2008 | 05:58 AM
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Aligning the blades to the vanes is an old wives tale (or more correctly an old bowhunters tale). It makes no difference in the flight characteristics.

It is however imperative that the BH spins perfectly true (no wobble).

One thing that can be done to help bring in flyers is to twist the nock 120 degrees to the next fletch and shoot the arrow again. Often times spine variations in the arrow will cause flyers. By twisting the nock you move the variation and will often pull that arrow into the group. If it does not work, try it again and go another 120 degrees.

After twisting the nock, ensuring that the BH is straight, even replacing the nock with a new one and the arrow still does not group, you have found yourself one of the best tomato stakes made. Cull it from your quiver and use it for practice with fieldpoints, make a pen out of it, or as I eluded to, use it as a tomato stake.
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Old 08-13-2008 | 09:05 AM
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Good answer Redline.

For your info it's "vanes". Veins carry blood back to the heart.
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Old 08-13-2008 | 10:08 AM
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This is one of those questions that needs to be a sticky at the top of the page.
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Old 08-13-2008 | 11:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: khawh

This might sound llike a crazy question but can all broadheads be alighned the ths veins. I get the best placed shot on my muzzy that is alighned with my veins but I cant seem to get the other two to alighn the same.
I'll throw a little different opinion. For me, it HAS seemed that SOME 3-blade BH's DID shoot better w/ blades aligned, and I know that has been the practice of many archers for MANY years, however, especially with the HIGH-TECH newer BH's and arrows, that isn't so much the case anymore. And I'm having a hell of a time getting my 3 fletches to line up w/ my 4 blades on my ST's. But as said above, SPIN-TESTING is a much better way of checking arrows, and if it spins true, most of the time it will shoot true if that bow IS tuned!!!!

Good Luck!!!
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Old 08-13-2008 | 12:06 PM
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Indexing can assist in some cases, but not all that often IMO. I'd say 9 out of 10 times it is not necessary. It can be effective on both ends of the arrow for aligning heads with vanes and nocks with dynamic spine, and sometimes a combination of both. Again, I rarely find it helps, but there are those instances when it can.

If you like Muzzy heads, and think indexing is something that is of help to you, take a look at Innerloc's new BAT system heads. One is called a Carbon Tuner and the other is the Falcon. They have special ferrules that are machined to allow you to turn the head and tighten them down whereever you want so they can be indexed without having to reglue inserts or refletch arrows.
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Old 08-13-2008 | 03:38 PM
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if u want your heads to line up with your vanes, use dental floss to wrap around the ferrule of the broadhead just a small amount with provide enough of a spacer to line them up
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Old 08-13-2008 | 10:11 PM
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Maybe you guys that do, or claim that itcan work, could answer why you do it. In other words what is the reason behind the practice? Are you trying to get the blades to fly through the same air as the fletchings or is there another reason?

I know what the outcome is supopose to be.... better broadhead flight, but what part of aligning the blades achieves that better flight?
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Old 08-14-2008 | 10:50 AM
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I know what you are getting at bigbulls. It's always been my impression that arrows do not spin fast enough for blades to cause enough turbulance to interfere with the workings of the fletching. It has been determined recently that many carbon arrow have a weak and/or stif side for spine. In this case it probably can help to determine just where that side is (floating the shafts) and fletch arrows so they are all at least consistent. Then maybe turn all broadheads so they are oriented the same, consistency being the key.

My experience, though, is that within the realm of normal hunting distances all this isn't going to make a big difference. Surely not as much as having the right spined arrows to start with and knowing how to tune the complete setup. And of course, having fairly consistent shooting form, which is the most important part anyway. Ya can't tune if ya can't shoot.
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Old 08-14-2008 | 01:26 PM
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YEah, carbons do definetly have a strong and weak side to them and finding this line will definetly help with arrow flight.

And there could be a case for orienting all of your broadheads the same in relation to the other broadheads so they are all leaving the bow the same way.

However, concerning the fletchings andblades alignment....... The point I was going to make is that unless a person is in a 100% perfectly controled environment there is absolutley no way any one could figure out where to align the vanes in relation to the blades on a broadhead. Once the wind direction, arrow speed, arrow rotation speed, arrow trajectory, relative humidity, air temperature, altitude,or anyofa number of other variables changes the calculations one would have to make would have just been thrown out the window and completely useless.

In other words....... It is absolutely impossible to get the blades and fletching aligned to fly through the "same air" or the "clean air" between the bladeswith out being in a lab.
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