Thart's what happens when you get to be Germ's age.

Funny that is how she got prego the second time, only I was the one passed out[:-]

We need to have a serious talk at the GTG. bring a notebook.

From a technical side,I personally feel draw length specific cams are far superior.I don't like the lack of adjustability though.This system having some slight adjustabilty should make it a great system.

I like the 2 track system in general and have a feeling this will be a great design but that is just an opinion of the IDEA,not the actuall product because I have not seen it up close.

I never understood this and it has yet to be proven to me. Even with draw specific cams a little tweaking is necessary. I've yet to have an adjustable cam bow(draw modules) not reach peak performance with some tweaking. In my opinion its just an easier, lazier, and perhaps more profitable way for a bow manufacturer to build cams.

I doubt it is more profitable.


When it comes to force draw curves.Getting the most out of shorter draw lengths and having straight and level nock travel,it only makes sense that a cam that is designed for a specific setting will beSLIGHTLY better.With the emphasis on slightly.

Have not seen the elite cams , but as far as everyone complaining about adjustability I agree , I miss dartons cps systems , the best I ever worked with or on .

Not much to say other than "Binary Cam" is a registered trademark of Bowtech, so to use the term in the first place is a touch silly don't ya think?


Oh and the whole notion of "another Binary" cam being cosher because of a difference in profile or number of tracks is basically the same as someone "inventing" a single cam with modules or some other bells and whistles...........you still have to get past the gatekeeper of the original single cam patent because at it's roots it's still a single cam.

And as Forrest would say......"And that's all I got to say about that".

Is this neccessary? Not to be a pain, but he wanted to know about the cam system not about how they are infringing on Bowtech. Not trying to have any "cross" words, but it's kind of irrelevant.

Back to the topic. I think Elite really has a neat cam system here. I'm like TFOX, I like the concept of the system, but I'm not familiar with the acual product. I'm sure it'll take a little tweaking to get it's peak preformance, like any other cam system. With two draw stops you know this thing is going to have a back wall similar to a brick wall.I like that.

Zero cam lean, if it's true, is a big plus. Considering, next to the draw curve, this is the only legitimate complaint against the Binary System in general.

As far as the cams being draw length specific, I like that as a shooter, but not if I was a store owner. Most "shooters" know their draw length exactly. I could care less about major adjustment. I'm not going to sporatically let my draw length out a half inch. However, with this new system you will be able to tweak up to a 1/4" each way, which should be plenty for a shooter who actually knows his/her draw length. For the beginner archer, this cam system probably wouldn't be the right fit.

As far as the specs go, I'm a big fan of bows in the 34-38" range ATA. They just feel better to me. I've said from the beginning I've loved the specs on the Airbornes, and the GT500 is no different. It should be a real shooter.