Rob, we may well see Sunday hunting in Pa whom knows what those wacky Board memebers of the PGC will do next.
And if it does come about it will be just like the ususal mode of bringing something new aboard, i.e. crossbow started out limited and by the meeting they will be no restrictions on them.
I personallydon't have any problem with hunting on public land on Sundays. But as one poster put it the flower sniffers such as the group Alt bedded down with (Audobon society), the Mtn bikers,horse back riders etc will never let it happen on anything but Pa Gamelands and even there any Senator that wants to be relected will vote in favor of them.
As for my land there will be no Sunday hunting ever, 'cause unlike one poster put it..".it's just another freaken day"... it is indeed the Sabath the 7th day a day of rest for both the animals an man. and if someone wants to contend that ,well they need to take it to a higher cause than old Uly.

Maybe when Lisa Boscola is at the January meeting to testify with the young woman who was shot during hunting season (Lisa wants more areas SRA so no rifles can be used), you can tell Senator Boscola at that time that hunters would like Sunday hunting too. [&:]

Good point Chickory! Did you know there are now two other municiplaities in Lehigh County trying to ban hunting the 6 days a week they have it now/ Charlie Dent is a good shoulder for them to cry on too.

Heres a thought. Boscola and her constituent want to speak at the PGC meeting. Those who attend and want to speak have to stand in line to sign up to speak. This year there should be quite a line.

My question is.......when she gets there with her constiuent will she stand in line and wait or will Jerry Feaser or Joe Nevile put her to the front of the line to speak ahead of hunters who have concerns.

There will be a lot of nonhunters and pro-herd reductions folks there ( there were last season), and I wonder if this year will truly be "first come first serve" or if special treatment will be provided to certain DCNR employees and pro-reductions folks.

To the first guy in the doors at Elmerton Ave. ...... check to see if anyone is penciled in on the list ahead of you.

chickory I have a son that lives on my farm down state that is only about 10 miles from where this girl was shot. Her family is not anti hunting, her father and brothers all hunt. In honesty there should be no centerfire hunting in that area. way too many sub divisions in that part of Lehigh county.
I do believe that she should be expected to stand in line like the rest of us, so too the DCNR, the timber companies and the flower sniffers.
I own over 1600 acres thruout Pa I dare say I pay my share of the taxes an have as much right to be heard as any special interest group rep.
I'll be there barring a winter storm or tidal wave in line long before the doors open.
Watch for the group of guys with the deer costume walking around the parking lot carrying placards to stop the doe killings

BLAH BLAH BLAH,

Food plots as bait? Okay, so a guy sitting on private land overlooking the farmers corn-field or a guy sitting in a big white oak tree that is dropping a ton of acorns is somehow better than a guy who will plant a patch of clover to hunt over? Give me a break. Food is food and planting a food plot doesn't mean that every deer in the state is going to be hanging out in it during the day. You guys need to get off your couch and stop watching the hunting shows and actually do a little research. The food plots I have planted get very little action during the day. I have game cameras set-up on them (is that another crime?) and these food plots definetly get used by doe more than bucks. Setting a camera on a well-traveled trail will usually get about 40% buck pictures and 60% doe pictures. Setting one up on a food plot will get about 90% doe pictures and 10% buck pictures with about 95% of the pictures being at night!

Sunday hunting. Well, I hear the religion card played alot yet these are the same guys who work on Sundays or drink beer while watching football on Sunday, ect... Sunday IS a day for relaxation (atleast it should be), but I find no better way to relax than to sit in a treestand!

As far as semi-auto rifles go. I personally don't like the idea, not because it is some new idea but for safety reasons. Rob's picture of PA rifle hunting is right on parr with what I see. Heck, the gamelands that border my hunting property sound like a war in the early morning. You can hear gun shots unload (probablly as a deer busts out into a field), and you can hear shots right in a line that get further and further away as the deer is running until one lucky soul puts a bullet in the thing! I really wonder what the hit/miss ratio is for rifle hunters in PA. I would be willing to bet it is around 7 misses for every 1 hit!

ATV's..... well, they aren't my favorite thing but I am not going to tell a guy he is wrong for using one (where legal). ATV's aren't solely used for the "lazy" man. They are used to haul deer out of the woods (who hasn't had a loooooong drag with a heavy deer and wished that they had an ATV?). They also help guys that can't walk get out there.

The problem with PA's "traditions" is that they weren't helping the deer out and they were driving future hunters and old-timers away. I think that things are looking better in PA, much better than they use to be. Yes, there is ALOT of improvement to be made, but these things take time. Getting doe tag allocations figured out is one of the more important ones, much more important than any nut-job telling me that I am a lazy slob because I hunt my own property (private property yes, posted no), and I plant food plots for the deer to help give them that extra nutrition they need for the winter.

BM you plant food plots so you can kill a buck that comes looking for those does, be it in the plot or on a trail leading to the plot...whom do you think is gulible enough not to think it is exactly about killing a deer. If you wanted to photogragh deer you'd set your trail cams up over by that farmer's field.
The "Religion card" as you refer to it IS one of the biggest reasons you don't see Sunday hunting today. that is fact. The PGC answers every request for Sunday hunting with that "card" as well as to state they depend on private land owners leaving their land open to the public. They ( PGC) feels most landowners themselves need a break 1 day from the other 6.
Chickory said it best...go to the meeting on 1/23,24,25 and listen to boscola tell how she'd like to see current hunting become more restrictive, then ask for another hunting day. Mike Schmidt and company will laugh you right out onto I78.

DD, we agree on something!

Archers need to do a better job of harvesting does when its most needed, IE: before the rut. We arent harvesting too many bucks (22% when archers are roughly a third of the hunting force) Maybe an earn a buck program (with an earlier archery doe only season maybe) ought to be looked at in areas that still truly have a high doe population

That was the best post you made in a very long time!!

after reading all this it makes me sick
when we say tadtional that was 2 days of doe in rifle then 3 now 2wks
we keep getting more but yet we still want more
tradtional bow besises the food plots
how much has camo alone changed old military camo to
sentloc silent rainsuit how is tradtional
Things have got better for the hunter yet all we do is complain
can someone please answer that for me .or are we just greety
atv if you own ride it plant it
The only thing i complain about is the worthless ppl that come on my
property every year.
This year one tried kicking my grandfather off my property and acually pushed him an 82 year old who had surgery on his neck and spine
He uses a 4 wheeler to get into the woods b/c he now walks like a toddler i see no harm in it.
sunday hunting if they pass it i will hunt it but i am not about to ask or complain about it good to all that go on the 23

we need to take the youth out hunting and teach them the ethical ways before it to late

happy hunting