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What has happened to Traditional PA Deer Hunting ?

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Old 12-29-2004 | 09:14 PM
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Old 12-29-2004 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks muzzyman but I'd like think there's more good guys out there than you think, although the drastic recent decline in junior hunter numbers does make a guy wonder.
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Old 12-29-2004 | 10:55 PM
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WOW............................................... ...................

You guys REALLy need to take a step back - and look at your current situation - and realize how good it really is in PA.

Things are changing - yes - you are lucky for that - and - hopefully - collectively - your voices will be heard.

In the meantime - ENJOY what you have -and quit the bitching.
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Old 12-30-2004 | 05:53 AM
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Sure they are out there but not in the shear numbers that the orange clad ones are...dusting off the rifle from last year and assuming it's on and slinging lead across the field at running deer and if they don't fall, not inspecting to see if they hit one cause they must have missed, they didn't fall....there are slobs in every sport, class, state blah blah but the sea of orange doesn't happen in archery season and I don't hear lead zinging over my head not to mention the richocet I took in my lower back one year. Not to mention all the 3 legged deer I see post season and the ones I find with jaws shot off.......yeah I take a rifle for a walk if I hadn't filled my tags in archery season but it's to patrol the property for orange trespassers and a possible coyote.
Instead of denigrating our fellow hunters I think all us archers should be thanking them for doing the work of managing the herd so we can enjoy what amounts to six weeks of recreational hunting ,where we do very little to contribute to managing the herd. In 2003 archers harvested 34K anterless or 11% of the anterless harvest. But, we harvested 31K buck, which was 22% of the buck harvest. If the orange army didn't harvest 289K anterless archers would soon be required to harvest 3 or 4 anterless deer before we could harvest a buck. Either that or professional sharpshooters would be hired to control the herd in many areas.
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Old 12-30-2004 | 06:19 AM
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Muzzy: while you may have suggested Sunday hunting for archers only , old BT was quick to reply...Sunday Hunting? you betcha. He posted that not me
To the point of archers not crowding the woods like the orange army... I don't know where you hunt but around most of the state archers already have 6 days a week for 6 weeks in the early season. That's 36 days that an archer can hunt before going to work and after coming home from work also all day each Saturday. Not to mention post Christmas archery and damage areas where tags can be had from landowners most of the year.
what do rifle hunters have for a season?
Come October I pray for rain most years just to keep the dust down on the dirt roads around here. Dust raised by archers 6 days a week for 6 weeks.
The PGC has shot down every effort by the PBS to open Sunday hunting with a reply as to how they are dependant on private land owners to allow trespass. This is a sore subject among us. The PGC needs us to remain unposted for some type of deer management to work per WMU. They'll never risk loosing us to appease a minority of back tag buyers (archers).
Sunday archery season has as much chance of survival as archery only early bear season,archery only elk season,etc.
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Old 12-30-2004 | 07:10 AM
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Useless, I'll make you a wager, your going to see Sunday hunting....it might not happen over night but it will start in say, spring gobbler season.....when targeting youth per sey....trying to get youth involved a parent only has Saturday til noon....that's sad, why not allow Sundays too so a father or mother can take their child out 2 days a week. AND, it's the biggest complaint that most people today work 6 days a week and only have Sunday off. AND, why punish all the state and game land hunters because some farmer doesn't want someone on his property on Sunday.....allow Sunday hunting and a farmer/ landowner can still regulate his or her property to not allow Sunday hunting...how hard is that, they are the landowner, if they don't want Sunday hunting on their property, they can tell their allowed hunters, no Sundays...kinda a no brainer.

Yes, you'll see Sunday hunting soon enough.
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Old 12-30-2004 | 07:21 AM
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I would think PA will try to implement Sunday hunting in a similar way that MD did. Sunday hunting only on certain days (1 Sunday in Novemeber for bows only and the first Sunday of firearms season) and only on private land and only with permission. The problem MD had with opening Sundays on public land was that the horse riders and bird watchers and hikers complained it was unfair that they didn't have a day to be in the woods on public land during hunting seasons. So, to quiet that crowd down, they only opened Sunday hunting to private land.
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Old 12-30-2004 | 10:01 AM
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sunday hunting - what's the big freakin deal????????????
it is a day, just like any other. there is no arguement for not having sunday hunting. NY switched several years back and, low and behold, we are still here and the deer are too. there was no apocalypse, we weren't stricken down, we didn't go blind, or whatever. the no sunday hunting is an antiquated law from a far ago time. i think it was simply done because it was the"sabbath". plain and simple. if you don't want to hunt on sunday - DON'T. why should others be "punished"?
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Old 12-30-2004 | 10:34 AM
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I agree doughboy! Sunday hunting in NY works fine. Been hunting PA the last two years only because of AR. I want to shoot a big Buck. Sunday hunting PA would be nice!
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Old 12-30-2004 | 11:26 AM
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All of you should be happy that you hunt in PA and what YOUR game commision is doing for you and your deer herd. I live in WV and they have yet to make any attempt to improve the deer herd like PA has. I wish we had someone like Dr. ALt in WV. I only live 20 minutes from Ohio and 1 minute from PA and I started hunting in OH this year but if PA continues improving the way that they have the last couple years I may switch to PA. Spotlighting in the late summer and driving to work in Pittsburgh all year round there is still to many deer around but it is coming down and the quality is going up.
I would love to have a n october doe season in Wv,I would love to have a late archery/black powder. WV has one of the shortest hunting seasons around. I would love start bowhunting 2 weeks earlier like PA or in sept. like kentucky.
If you don't like doe hunting don't shoot them and don't let people on your property shoot them it's as simple as that, but don't try and stop me on my land. My dad and I shoot 8-10 doe a year where we hunt and if the dnr would ever allow us more we probably would. We keep some ,give them to friends and give them to the needy. In the last 4 years I have killes 18 does and 0 bucks where i hunt cause I have missed 2 and haven't seen any others that fit my criteria of a buck that I would shoot.
The sunday hunting is the same thing if you don't want to hunt don't but I do.Only 10 counties in WV have sunday hunting because the rest voted it down. Luckily my county still has it. I love to hunt with all weapons and every day that I can. I work every other weekend fri, sat, and sunday so on my weekend off I hunt fri,sat,and sun.
Be thankfull of what your pgc is doing for you and hope it continues on the right path even though Dr Alt is gone.
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