LOL! Get your deer every year with bullets made of MIGHTY PUTTY!

>but they still estimate the herd by county aswell as report the harvest for each county.

So?

Bottom line is OH manages via three big units. Wonder how they get by without micro management?


>Wow: I never realized Ohio had such liberal bag limit.Am I reading it wrong, WVgino??


You are not reading it wrong. An OH deer hunter can harvest 12 deer not counting special urban deer hunts. Of those 12, 11 would have to be anterless. WV just up'ed our limit to 13 a year by adding two different Sept. anterless seasons.


Almost all Eastern states with the exception of NE states are now this liberal with bag limits on deer.


WV Gino

Gino your problem is you comment on things that you have NO idea of what you are talking about!! I hunt in OH. and I am only permitted to harvest 6
deer per year ( not counting SRA's or Urban area's) not 12 like you are trying to claim.
But even though a hunter can kill a total of six in 2009, in 2006 only 8,000 of their 450,000 deer hunters filled all 3 of their available tags, so how many of those 8,000 hunters harvested 4,5 or 6 deer in 2007 or 08 when the ODNR raised the yearly bag limit from 3 to 6 deer.

Also the ODNR. does mirco manage, they use DD. estimates and harvest #'s from every county in each WMU. to determine the bag limits for each WMU.
The PGC. on the other hand does not have a clue of what the DD. is in any of the 64 counties of PA. or the deer harvest for each county.

Then again things like DD. by county or deer harvest by county is only a concern to state wildlife agency's that actually care about over harvesting their herd. Pike

Gino, when we have the big bucks ohio has, the hunter numbers and quality of hunting, I promise I will not ask pgc to change one damn thing. LOL

Thing is we have few wmus NOW and it aint workin' very well. Ohios system works in spite of the few wmus, not because of them. Theyve got the soils, the hunter numbers, the men in charge that now what the hell they are doing, no rifles, etc. etc. etc. Hunter satisfaction is high.

Having said that, Id imagine even Ohio or anywhere else could be improved upon in some ways, Maybe even by going to smaller wmus??. They just need it a helluva lot less than we do. (LOL) And like in ohio, if it aint broke, dont fix it. Well here it is broke and pgc is pretending that it aint.

Anyway, here there is a helluva lot of room for improvement and smaller wmus would be a great place to start. Its something most would greatly like to see and its proven to be workable. No reason now not to, other than pure stubbornness and a desire to ignore hunters and slaughter deer.

"Almost all Eastern states with the exception of NE states are now this liberal with bag limits on deer."

Not ONE other eastern state has even close to 900,000 hunters and deer densities as low as ours along with them.


I also have no problems with any state including pa being able to harvest as many deer per person as tags are available going from wmu to wmu. Problem is, many wmus should have lower allocations. It is fine to get say 4 doe tags if you want to hunt 3 or 4 wmus and they are available. Its quite another when you can get 2 three or 4 in ONE wmu here in Pa where the added harvest is far from needed.

Obviously you were so quick to criticize that you didn't bother to read my post. The info presented is entirely new. In 2008 the forest health in both 2G and 2F were rated poor. Now 2F is rated fair even though regeneration is only 1% higher than 2G. It is also interesting to note than regeneration in 2F increased from 34% in 2007 to 39% in 2008,while 2G decreased from 42% in 2007 to 38% in 2008. Can you explain why it increased in 2F even though 2F has a lot more deer than 2G?

J Pike,

Any idea as to what the current budget is for the Hunting/Fishing section is within Ohio's DNCR?

thanks

Good question Yano. I would like to know that also. I have yet to find any state as high as Pa. Yet we get very little in return.

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yano that is a great question!! But I do not have a clue but would love to know the answer aswell to compare the ODNR's Wildlife Div.'s budget to our PGC.'s yearly budget. Pike