Anyone read the summer Pa Game Commission "deer chronicle" yet? Funny stuff. More pgc lies and bullchit. Guess they still arent sold on the idea of smaller wmus. They speak of Wisconsin not being perfect even though they had 131 wmus back in 2001 and that like Pa they still had problems (although I didnt see anything about deer wars! lol)....... And they quote some obscure piece by someone in Wisconsin saying its not a perfect system....yadda yadda yadda. Yet here we are, EIGHT YEARS later, and guess how many wmus Wisconsin has now?? Yeah, thats right that same ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE! LOL...Or look at NY with 85...Or virginia with 99. Or Michigan with....oh heck I dont know you count em! lolmichigan

Follow that up? How about saying in a piece about "deer predation" that the recent years our deer herd is NOT declining, it is stable, predators or not. LOL. Perhaps whoever wrote that didnt look at the buck harvest data of the last few years? LMAO. Or the pgc annual report herd change index? LMAO. I notice those pieces were not signed by the author. I dont blame him/her. I wouldnt sign off on such a joke either.


.....And the beat goes on.

More lies from Elmerton Avenue

One will pretty much be able to tell if the upcoming audit of the PGC is totally bogus or not, if they don't at least compare the number of PA's WMU's to other states and recomend an increase.

I still find VA quite interesting. Here's a state only 4k sq miles less in land mass, has 99 WMU's, is a combined Game/Fish Agency that has roughly 1/2 the budget of the PA Game and Fish commisions combined, and yet you can go to a link on their website: http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlif...vest/index.asp ... and find Deer Harvest data state-wide, by region, or by county/city for last year, the last 10 years, or all data (1947 to present).

Perhaps the most important thing is that they say right up front that: "In contrast to many states that estimate their annual deer kill, Virginia's deer kill figures represent an actual known minimum count."

Each county should be a WMU. Why should some counties be lumped in with others withdeer population problems caused from over development and poor hunter access.

"I still find VA quite interesting. Here's a state only 4k sq miles less in land mass, has 99 WMU's, is a combined Game/Fish Agency that has roughly 1/2 the budget of the PA Game and Fish commisions combined, and yet you can go to a link on their website: http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlif...vest/index.asp ... and find Deer Harvest data state-wide, by region, or by county/city for last year, the last 10 years, or all data (1947 to present). "

Its amazing how so many other states make it work isnt it? LOL. To hear pgc tell it, its an impossibility. You think theyd at least throw the sportsmen that bone, seeing as how it would definately help with public relations at the very least since I havent seen ONE hunter on several boards say they wouldnt like smaller wmus. Also very good point about Virginia. Nearly same size as Pa, yet they take half the money to run management, and they do so with a system of smaller wmus that pgc says would take MORE money! Now why doesnt all this sound quite right???

Amen Patsy. I would support going back to the couty system or similar size units and wouldnt be unhappy if they were even smaller, broken up by roads ,rivers ,streams etc. Whatever. They have options. They just flatly refuse to explore them. And its only the way it is because its easier to reduce a herd over entire areas instead of micromanaging when the wmus are fewer and larger plus saves them some work in the way of data collection and assessing, as well as preparing annual reports etc.. It seem the biologists at pgc would rather work half as much, while the agency soaks up twice the money of other states. [:'(]

>Its amazing how so many other states make it work isnt it? LOL.


Riddle me this Cornholio,

how does OH which is considered by most GC bashers as the mecca of deer management get by with just 3(three) deer management units for the whole state?





Wv Gino







http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/...eer.aspx#zones

Wow: I never realized Ohio had such liberal bag limit.Am I reading it wrong, WVgino??

Gino OH. only has 3 WMU.'s but they still estimate the herd by county aswell as report the harvest for each county. Pike

Diid anyone else notice that forest health in 2A was rated fair with 36% while 2G was rated poor with 38% regeneration, yet 2F was rated fair with 39% regeneration?

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