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LOL! So much for my online scoring skills!

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He has a garage where they skin most of the mounts.I may be wrong but I believe that truckload of capes is heading from the skinning shed to the main studio.

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Here are a few other pictures from that same Taxidermist’s Shop taken during a couple past years.

The first one is one of the best bucks from twenty years ago compared to the buck his son shot in the 2006 archery season. That 2006 buck was the smallest of the group three already coming into his stand when he was getting into it. It was the only one that offered a shot.


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The best 2007 archery buck in the shop:


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The best 2007 rifle buck:


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The best 2006 rifle buck: The one on the wall behind it is nice too:


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Here are a few from another local Taxidermist:


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R.S. Bodenhorn

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There is no need to call Cliff since he is only concerned about making money and would naturally defend ARs . But ARs were implemented to produce bigger racks they were implemented to increase breeding rates and shorten the breeding window and breeding rates have decreased by 5% and the breeding window is unchanged. Therefore, ARs have failed to produce the predicted results.

Furthermore, none of the buck s were produced by ARs . They were all legal for 1 or 2 years before they were harvested . Those bucks are due to reduced hunting pressure due to HR.

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I think that a good point BB. Reduced hunting pressure. Many know that the north central has very low dd and avoid it like the plague compared to previously.

I think here in the sw, outside of the sras, our hunter numbers increased thanks to so many other areas of the state tanking. I think that may be one of the reasons our quality here has declined.

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RSB is right. My Dad shot a basket racked 8 point in the "good old days" and it was considered a trophy of a lifetime.
It was no bigger than that basket rack in the first photo.
Personally, I believe it a crime the way we used to harvest 90 percent of yearlings every year.

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If I calculate correctly, that 7 1/2 buck would have been among the first generation of 1 1/2 year olds that AR's were intended to protect.

Could it be that instead of dying asa forkie he saw enough hunters in his first season to learn how to evade and survive? Aint it great to know that he passed on those genes to 7 generations? :D:D:D

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But that was just more of Alt's propaganda. We harvested 52K ,2.5+ buck in 2002 before a single buck was saved by ARs. That would have been impossible if we harvested 90% of our 1.5 buck. In the second year of ARs we only harvested 62K 2.5+ buck, after ARs were supposed to have saved 50% of our 1.5 buck.

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Do you just wake up miserable in the morning or do you have to think about it for an hour or so to see how pointless your sorry meaningless life has become?
You really should seek professional help before you become any more deranged and actually act upon your delusional rants.[&:]

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Yep, My dad shot a 9 pointer that looked very much like the buck on the left in this pic in the early 70's and won a huge buck pool with it

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DougE, thanks for the insight. I'm always leary of these types of pics as they usually wind up being too good to be true. I was under the impression this was from one camp and not a collection of bucks brought in from about. No doubt the pic is legitimate, just find the tagging kind of odd.

Congrats to all those guys and especially the taxidermist. Looks like he'll have his hands full!

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You guys musta had some real crap quality. That buck wouldve been a "scrap buck" here in the sw, at any time during the last 40 years.

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Wrong again!

The buck pool was smack dab in the middle of the county that has acounted for the majority of book bucks in PA ever since such data has been recorded and had several hundredentries every season.


Corny

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Lemme get this straight now.... Things were so terrible in the wmu that your pap won a buck contest with that little dink, yet the wmu was a superb one producing plenty of trophies?

Oh.. Ok. I understand! (LOL)(LOL) I sometimes wonder if you EVER think before you post! (LOL)


A buck like that wouldnt be entered in a contest here in the last 4 decades! (LOL) The person wouldve been laughed out of the building! (LOL) Not that we have so many giants or ever did, but that buck you speak of has always been a tiny dink around here.

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You're trying too hard to be like yourhero. Yes the buck pool was in Allegheny County which has historically produced the biggest average bucks in the state even back then. The dink buck by todays standards was a real trophy back then even in the best area in PA as evidenced by the fact that no local shot a better one!

If you still don't understand, read it slower a few times and I'm sure all will clear up.

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There is no doubt that the reduced pressure in 2G is saving more bucks andletting them live longer.In fact,I'll agree that the reduced pressure in 2G is a having a bigger effect on the size of the racks than AR is.However,it still doesn't change the fact thatthe hunting is far better than many of you who've never even been to 2gclaim it is.This guy has been mounting over 400 bucks a year and many of them are true slammers.Most of the hunters I know agree that there's less deer but they aren't nearly as negative as the majority on here.

BTBOWHUNTER,I won't say exactly where that 7.5 year old buck was taken but it was taken surprisingly close to a roadon Elk state forest.The terrain in many parts of 2G is so vast and rugged that huge areas see very little pressure.

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Cant speak for Allegheny during that time frame.. IF it indeed was the highest quality in the state in the 70's...Then I think you are full of beans about the contest winning.

However, i Do know the herd was VERY low in Greene county back then. But My family and friendshave albums FULL of bucks bigger than that tiny dink EVERY SINGLE YEARtaken all during the 70's. Mainly from areas not even thought of as "best". Most of which were taken in the Fayette/Somerset mountains area. And the bucks they took were "the norm" not giants by any stretch.

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Somebody is drinking the bong water here.
Years ago it was a treat to even see a forked antler on a buck, and here we have a guy professing to have albums full of BIG BUCKS.... EVERY YEAR from that era. Hmmmmmm.

Who was shooting them psychodelic monsters? ? ? ? ?

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Betcha we'll never see any of those buck pics;)

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livbucks, someone may be drinkin the bong water but your smokeing the bong.

I guess you were a very poor skill-less lazyhunter? LIke pgc supporters claim is the case with detractors today.

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BTB, your so full of "it" your eyes hafta be brown. Youre a proven liar and thats a FACT.
Every word I said is true.

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"Who was shooting them psychodelic monsters? ? ? ? ? "

I already told you who. And I also told you they WERENT monsters. They were bigger than the rediculous dink on the left in that pic.

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He is the answer as to why he won the pool. The reported buck harvest in Allegheny Co. was 136 buck and it climbed to 165 by 1975. TThe herd was just becoming established there in the 70's.

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Did they turn into serpent lizards and then change into butterflies and fly away??
How many different colors were they??

Here is the skinny...
Yes, there were the rare big buck kills at any time in history. The fact that Bob's pap won the contest with that basket 9 point does not mean there were no bigger taken. It just means that the locals who entered the contest didn't shoot a bigger buck that year. Notwithstanding.....that basket rackin RSB's first photo was considered a very nice trophy up until AR. That basket was never considered a monster, but it was rare enough to hold some weight at the time.
Deer being considered monsters were extremely rare. Rare enough that guys would drive 3 counties to get a peek.
Now we have fairly huge deer that hardly get a rise out of people. That is what is bringing back the hunters in PA, in contrast to the rest of the nation. Pa has expansive public land with the potential to provide any hunter with his dream buck.
Go to the other states and you had better own the land, or pay dearly for a few days of opportunity.

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Well there ya have it bb. LOL. I guess that explains it. (LOL)

LIv says: "Deer being considered monsters were extremely rare."

and they still are. In fact they are RARER now in many areas than they were just 10-15 years ago.

"Now we have fairly huge deer that hardly get a rise out of people."

Hardly. (LOL)

"Go to the other states and you had better own the land, or pay dearly for a few days of opportunity"

Thats basically where WE are right now. And in the areas where that is not quite the case, thats exactly where they're headed.

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Are you an idiot and can't read data sheets? PA is loosing way more hunters than any other state out there. pa has declining hunters over the last 5 years. You seen the data and still cant comprehend the truth that hunters are leaving hunting in pa and not coming back to hunting. Show us the stats that says hunters are returning to hunting in pa? another pgc idiot supporter who is to dumb to know the truth of what is going on.

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Cant wait to see all those albums full of pictures LOL

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Just read a report today that stated that we didn't lose any resident adult hunters last year.

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Who wrote it and where did they get the info?

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That is absolutely pure unadulterated horse puckey. I have dozens and dozens of old PGN that have loads of buck much bigger than the rack RSB posted.

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We all do. So what? The fact remains that the average buck today is substantially better than before AR and with very few exceptions, the biggest of today are much bigger then the biggest were before AR.

You're being in denial of that fact really erodes your credibility here and only serves to make us all very cynical in the odd case when you happen to post something that is correct

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Your out of your gourd. You better check the Pa record book entries. The top ten in any of the top categories havebarely been scratched since ar. (LOL)

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Any monkey would recognize that the top trphies of all time arent all going to fall in a mere 5 years. Oh well, most monkeys anyway

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That also is pure nonsense and totally contradicts the research by Kroll, and Alsheimer and Dr. Demarias. Furthermore, it is an absolutely ridiculous claim when you consider that in 2002 we harvested 52K 2.5+ buck. Were the 2.5+ buck harvested in 2002 ,smaller than the 2.5+ buck harvested in 2003? Were 44.700 2.5+ buck harvested in 2001 , smaller than the 2.5+ buck harvested in 2003? You want ARs to be successful so bad that you deny reality.

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"Cant wait to see all those albums full of pictures LOL "

Thats the problem. You know dang well I aint gonna go around and visit relatives and uncles and friends gathering photos so I can take pics of them to please you. Photos FULL of pics. (LOL) But just to make the point and shut you up, here are the bucks taken only by DAD during the early 70's. (time frame in question. As I said, no monsters. But ALL bigger than the joke pictured. But not nearly as big as bucks he and i and others have taken through the 80's and 90's.

1969

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1970

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1972

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1972