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DougE 02-03-2009 05:37 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
I'm still not convinced that 2G is being actually managed at a different dd than 2F.2f has more more dpsm and their allocation have dropped signficantly like 2g's has.However,I feel the PGC just decided to greatly decrease allocations in both of these units because hunters were screaming so loud.The plan was stabilization and they just got stabilzed at different deer densities.I don't see anywherethat the long term management plan is to manage 2F at almost twice the deer density of 2G.I honestly don't know what's happening with the deer population in 2F.I can say that my personal observation and the observation of most of the guys I hunt with is that the deer herd has definately increased in the areas where I spend time in 2G.What I see is a huge lack of pressure in this unit.

BTBowhunter 02-03-2009 05:38 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

I'd rather be know as letting a 10 year old harvest a doe and putting someone elses tag on it, than what you and your friends do. To snare a buck, have the WCO put it down for you and then tag it as a bow harvest, shows how hard up you guys are for a deer.
First of all that wasnt me but I commend Greg for his selfless act. Second, that is a complete distortion. Have you been taking lessons from Blueboy?
Greg didn't claim that deer as a bowkill. Should he have simply wasted it?


I never had the urge to hunt the NC deer farm, wanting to see 75 to 100 deer a day is for city slickers like yourself. As far as I'm concerned the PGC should have kept the tags high in 2G, like they did everywhere else in the state, then they could have stopped the slaughter in the better habitat.
You really can't read can you? wanting to see 75-100 deer a day? Talk to Bluebird about that not me. City slicker? My "city" has 80 families living here. You are truly clueless! Otherwise I agree with you about the NC


If the NC had better habitat, guys like you would never even see a deer, deer in my area don't walk around all day looking for food like they do in the NC.
You should stick to what you know. First, I hunt NW not NC. Second, how would you know what deer do all day there? Third, only a complete idiot would claim that its easy to hunt deer in poor habitat because they "walk around all day looking for food". That one is simply hilarious! You obviously havent got a clue.



My cousins husband also has a bad case from a tick bite, he can't work anymore and half the time doesn't know he is talking about. Get my drift.
Cheap shot. Amusing but certainly not surprising. I've certainly seen far worse from smarter people. But go ahead and take some more. What else should we expect from a guy who will intentionally teach a 10 year old to disrespect the law and proudly brag about it. Hopefully the kid has enough inherent consciense to not take your lead when it comes to making more important right vs wrong decisions. You must be so proud. Withthe leadership of your moral compass, whats next? High fives when he shoplifts that pair of running shoes. Backslaps when he breaks into someones home? Maybe you should get him a crack pipe for his birthday. Just a few cheap shots down on your level.:D

bluebird2 02-03-2009 06:42 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

I'm still not convinced that 2G is being actually managed at a different dd than 2F.2f has more more dpsm and their allocation have dropped signficantly like 2g's has.However,I feel the PGC just decided to greatly decrease allocations in both of these units because hunters were screaming so loud.The plan was stabilization and they just got stabilzed at different deer densities.I don't see anywhere that the long term management plan is to manage 2F at almost twice the deer density of 2G.
We aren't discussing the long term goals for 2F and 2G we are discussing how the PGC managed those WMU's from 2000 to 2007 and it is clear they are managing those WMUs at significantly different DD. When I ask Dr. Rosenberry he did not say that those 2 WMUs weren't being managed at different densities, I simply said he did know why it was happening.

Did the PGC increase antlerless allocations for 2007 in 2F when they increased tags in 2G. If not, then it is even more clear that the PGC is intentionally managing those 2 WMUs at different densities.

DougE 02-03-2009 07:07 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
No buck the buck kill didn't invrease by 40% in 2F.They wanted the herd stabilized and that 40% increase clearly showed the herd was starting to rebound.It doesn't mean that they're managing them to any long term difference.Hunters screamed and the PGC tried to stabilize almost every WMU.

Coalcracker 02-03-2009 08:08 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
Glad to hear you hunt in the NW, not the NC, that puts you that much further away from this area. We have enough pot hunters coming out of Philly and the surrounding area to keep our deer herd in check. If they would increase the allocations in the big woods, we could send them back up to play hunter for a day or two, rather than have them shooting fawns and think they are a great white hunter like you.

Here in the Northern part of the SE/Southern part of theNE, we have true bow hunters. They hunt with bow only, if they don't harvest a deer with a bow they don't go out with a rifle in rifle season just to try and fill their unused tag. That is the sign of a true bow hunters, which mygrandsons father is one of them, plus i have a son in N.Y. feels the same way.

Did your parents have any normal children or are you an only child?



bluebird2 02-03-2009 08:30 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

Greg didn't claim that deer as a bowkill. Should he have simply wasted it?

While you are quick to accuse others of lying, it is you who has trouble telling the truth. Livbucks admitted the WCO allowed him to put his tag on the buck. That way Livbucks didn't have to pay $10/point for the rack.

bluebird2 02-03-2009 08:35 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 


ORIGINAL: DougE

No buck the buck kill didn't invrease by 40% in 2F.They wanted the herd stabilized and that 40% increase clearly showed the herd was starting to rebound.It doesn't mean that they're managing them to any long term difference.Hunters screamed and the PGC tried to stabilize almost every WMU.
What kind of convoluted thought process are you using. WMU 2F still had more DPSM than 2G even with the 40% increase in the buck harvest in 2G.
The simple fact is that the PGC did not attempt to reduce the herd in 2F to 12 DPSM like in 2G and none of you PGC supporters or Dr. Rosenberry can explain the different management goals.

Cornelius08 02-03-2009 09:54 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
"My cousins husband also has a bad case from a tick bite, he can't work anymore and half the time doesn't know he is talking about. Get my drift. "

Less oxygen to the brain due to a bad ticker not pumping enough blood also has that effect.

"What kind of convoluted thought process are you using."

So basically what you are saying bluebird is we have a pgc flunky that is full of beans and has no clue what they are talking about/ (GASP!) I dont believe it!:D:D

bowtruck 02-03-2009 10:29 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
if we only had 1000 dpsm and giant 10 points the ne forums would almost be blank

BTBowhunter 02-03-2009 10:38 AM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

Original Coalcracker

Here in the Northern part of the SE/Southern part of theNE, we have true bow hunters. They hunt with bow only, if they don't harvest a deer with a bow they don't go out with a rifle in rifle season just to try and fill their unused tag. That is the sign of a true bow hunters, which mygrandsons father is one of them, plus i have a son in N.Y. feels the same way.
I guess you got me there.... not! I do hunt the gun season. You were half right with your assumption. The part you were wrong about is that I do it with a bow. As a matter of fact my best PA buckwas shot with a bow from his bedon the second Monday of rifle season.My second best PA buck cameon Jan 12 again with the bow in anSRA with gun hunters all over the place.

I also notice you didnt include yourself when you described what a real bowhunter is. Given your disregard for the Game laws, I'm glad that you don't put yourself in with our group.


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