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bluebird2 02-02-2009 06:03 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

RSB and Greg didnt say that deer avoid steep slopes. They said that not much grows to provide feed on those steep rocky areas. Once again, you twist the meaning of facts when you know full well what was said and what it means.
But if you knew jack squat about topograhy, you would know a SM composed of steep slopes provides a lot more surface area and browse than a SM of flat land. The steep slopes I climbed following deer had the same chestnut and red oaks as the flats. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

BTBowhunter 02-02-2009 06:05 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2


RSB and Greg didnt say that deer avoid steep slopes. They said that not much grows to provide feed on those steep rocky areas. Once again, you twist the meaning of facts when you know full well what was said and what it means.
But if you knew jack squat about topograhy, you would know a SM composed of steep slopes provides a lot more surface area and browse than a SM of flat land. The steep slopes I climbed following deer had the same chestnut and red oaks as the flats. You simply don't know what you are talking about.
No, you simply don't know the terrain or habitat of 2G or 2F

livbucks 02-02-2009 06:06 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
I meant they avoid it because they have no purpose to go there. Of course they can traverse steep slopes in their travels or as escape routes from wiley blueticks. That does not mean those areas contribute to sustenance.

bluebird2 02-02-2009 06:18 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
So are you claiming that 2G is mostly steep slopes and those slopes don't suffer from over browsing? if so you don't know squat about deer just like BTB and RSB.

livbucks 02-02-2009 06:25 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
Where deer congregate, notably winter range, is the point.
The fact that much of the terrain is not suitable for overwintering puts even more stress on what is left and yes, results in overbrowsing of those winter grounds.

BTBowhunter 02-02-2009 06:27 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2

So are you claiming that 2G is mostly steep slopes and those slopes don't suffer from over browsing? if so you don't know squat about deer just like BTB and RSB.
Twist and spin, twist and spin and of course.......



bluebird2 02-02-2009 06:29 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
No, that is just RSB propaganda. The habitat in 2G supported almost twice as many deer as they had in 2007 and it had nothing to do with the carrying capacity of the wintering areas.

livbucks 02-02-2009 06:34 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
And those high numbers, and the concentrated overbrowsing,are what gave ammo to hr.
The biologists took photos where the damage occured, and you now know why it happened, Mr 40 dpsm.

bluebird2 02-02-2009 06:37 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 


ORIGINAL: livbucks

And those high numbers, and the concentrated overbrowsing, are what gave ammo to hr.
The biologists took photos where the damage occured, and you now know why it happened, Mr 40 dpsm.
The 40 DPSM occurred in the mid 70s. During the 80's the PGC bragged about how well they were managing the herd and how much the habitat was recovering. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

livbucks 02-02-2009 06:39 PM

RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
If we logged the livin' hell outta them hills, you could have 60 dpsm for the rest of your days with no problem. We all know that isn't going to happen, so we have to adjust.


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