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germain 02-17-2009 03:54 PM
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
I'll third Reagan being the greatest president of our time.

R.S.B. 02-17-2009 05:05 PM
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

Alas, I can see that is not likely to happen. It's clear that your posts are destined to always be clouded with your warped agenda and your personal hatreds.
RSB is the clown with the warped agenda and you support his propaganda on deer management without question. The habitat IN VF supported over 200 DPSM which was below the MSY carrying capacity while 2G has less than 10 DPSM and RSB claims the habitat is controlling the herd and you support him. You are both hopelessly ignorant.

It is very obvious that nature and the deer in both areas disagree with your perspective of how many deer can be supported long term.
If either area could support more deer the numbers wouldn’t have been I a state of decline.

You simply refuse to accept the facts and laws of nature while I am constantly encouraging people to learn more about both since deer are forced to live within the means of the habitat they live or die with.

R.S. Bodenhorn

bluebird2 02-17-2009 05:21 PM
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
It is very obvious that nature and the deer in both areas disagree with your perspective of how many deer can be supported long term.
If either area could support more deer the numbers wouldn’t have been I a state of decline.
That is pure unadulterated nonsense. In 2000 2g supported 15 OWD PSM and now it supports less than 10 OWD PSM simply because harvests exceeded recruitment. At the same time the unhunted herd in VF is at over 200 DPSM even though the habitat is overbrowsed to a much greater degree than in 2g. If hunting was banned in 2g the herd would increase to over 40DPSM with the existing habitat and it still wouldn't be at the MSY carrying capacity.

sproulman 02-17-2009 05:49 PM
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

It is very obvious that nature and the deer in both areas disagree with your perspective of how many deer can be supported long term.
If either area could support more deer the numbers wouldn’t have been I a state of decline.
That is pure unadulterated nonsense. In 2000 2g supported 15 OWD PSM and now it supports less than 10 OWD PSM simply because harvests exceeded recruitment. At the same time the unhunted herd in VF is at over 200 DPSM even though the habitat is overbrowsed to a much greater degree than in 2g. If hunting was banned in 2g the herd would increase to over 40DPSM with the existing habitat and it still wouldn't be at the MSY carrying capacity.

is there a study done on habitat in wmu2g that says that it can hold over 12 dpsm.

you stated 40 dpsm it can hold.

right now we are at about 4 deer dpsm in clinton, i feel from feeder checks and my trailcamera counts .

if habitat or study says that we can hold more than 12 dpsm,then the PGC should be bringing the deer to that level.

bluebird2 02-17-2009 05:55 PM
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
is there a study done on habitat in wmu2g that says that it can hold over 12 dpsm.
A 20 yr. study showed 2g could support 15 OWD PSM. The 12 DPSM I reported was the pre -season population ,not the OWDD. the PGC has dismissed the 20 years of research plus over 50 years of harvest data that shows shows 2g can support more than 15 OWD PSM.

sproulman 02-17-2009 06:15 PM
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

is there a study done on habitat in wmu2g that says that it can hold over 12 dpsm.
A 20 yr. study showed 2g could support 15 OWD PSM. The 12 DPSM I reported was the pre -season population ,not the OWDD. the PGC has dismissed the 20 years of research plus over 50 years of harvest data that shows shows 2g can support more than 15 OWD PSM.
now we are at 4 DPSM in clinton county.


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