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livbucks 01-09-2009 07:48 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 
BB2 is a skeered to go in the woods now.
:D

bluebird2 01-09-2009 07:48 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 
How did you get those buck to let you check their teeth?:)

livbucks 01-09-2009 07:51 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 
Examined the jawbone after skinning.
They cooperate fully:eek:

bluebird2 01-09-2009 07:56 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 


ORIGINAL: livbucks

I have only seen three 2.5 or older bucks in my life that were not able to meet ar. 1 since ar and 2 prior to ar. I have never seen a spike older than 1.5 in my life. Always young in my experience.
You said you have only "seen" those bucks, you didn't say you killed them. So have you killed every 2.5 buck you saw? Now ,remember you claimed you passed on a lot of 8 pts.

BTBowhunter 01-09-2009 08:02 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 

ORIGINAL: livbucks

I have only seenthree 2.5 or older bucks in my life that were not able to meet ar. 1 since ar and 2 prior to ar. I have never seen a spike older than 1.5 in my life. Always young in my experience.
Come to think of it, I do remember anon AR legal older buck that we had running around in 2B a while back (before AR). He seemed tohang mostlyon posted property owned by Audubon but we'd see him at rut time occasionally. He had two huge main beams and that was it.He had an 18" or so spread and serious mass and beam length. He was positively huge and had a serious swayback. We figured he was well past prime.

livbucks 01-09-2009 08:08 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 
I am pretty confident in assessing whether a buck is 1.5 or older when I see it. 1.5 year olds have a unique head proportion and body that they grow out of. I dabble in taxidermy so I've studied WT reference a time or two and catalogged the various head measurements. Look at that 1.5 I posted and compare to the older bucks. The lightbulb shall shine.

BTBowhunter 01-09-2009 08:11 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 
Greg does your gang participate in the mosquito creek coyote hunt?

livbucks 01-09-2009 08:12 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter


ORIGINAL: livbucks

I have only seenthree 2.5 or older bucks in my life that were not able to meet ar. 1 since ar and 2 prior to ar. I have never seen a spike older than 1.5 in my life. Always young in my experience.
Come to think of it, I do remember anon AR legal older buck that we had running around in 2B a while back (before AR). He seemed tohang mostlyon posted property owned by Audubon but we'd see him at rut time occasionally. He had two huge main beams and that was it.He had an 18" or so spread and serious mass and beam length. He was positively huge and had a serious swayback. We figured he was well past prime.
That is a classic example of a declining buck. The points will disappear in the final years, then the beams will shorten.

livbucks 01-09-2009 08:14 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

Greg does your gang participate in the mosquito creek coyote hunt?
No, but we shoot them on sight just the same..;)

petropedro 01-09-2009 08:35 PM

RE: ARs= The Survival of the Weak and Scrawny
 

ORIGINAL: livbucks

I am pretty confident in assessing whether a buck is 1.5 or older when I see it. 1.5 year olds have a unique head proportion and body that they grow out of. I dabble in taxidermy so I've studied WT reference a time or two and catalogged the various head measurements. Look at that 1.5 I posted and compare to the older bucks. The lightbulb shall shine.
how old is this buck?






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