Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
12-26-2008 | 05:24 PM
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"All he or she needs is common sense."
If there were any common sense involved, this wouldnt be going on. The extent of the excessive extreme reduction wouldnt have taken place in the first place. Hunters wouldnt be declining at OVER DOUBLE the national average, pgc would have enough money to operate efficiently, and money wouldnt be getting wasted on court cases, audits or anything else that should not be necessary in the first place.
If there were any common sense involved, this wouldnt be going on. The extent of the excessive extreme reduction wouldnt have taken place in the first place. Hunters wouldnt be declining at OVER DOUBLE the national average, pgc would have enough money to operate efficiently, and money wouldnt be getting wasted on court cases, audits or anything else that should not be necessary in the first place.
12-26-2008 | 05:28 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
I would love to know the percenatge that are against the PGC. I bet a majority of the ones that hate it are the one day members of the orange army. You know the ones that hunt the Monday after Thanksgiving and thats it. i personally know many of them. To be honest in my area the ones that put their time in are real happy with the deer herd. Like I have been saying for years you only get out of something what you put into something.
12-26-2008 | 05:32 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
ORIGINAL: Cornelius08
"The only credible evaluation of hunter approval has shown that the majority still supports the current practices."
You are a liar. Show me one "evaluation"that has shown this?The ONLY evaluations one has are the "unscientific" ones taken place on message boards, and all those through the years have been NON-herd reduction by a landslide. Taking to people anywhere in the state, asking people if they are againstthe extent of hr is like asking if they like windy coldor driving wooden splinters under their finger nails.
"Barroom chatter from thebeer enlightened experts may have you convinced but it doesn't fly in thereal world. "
Sorry pal. Havent been to a bar in years, so wouldnt know firsthand. Course I know many who do, and they, along with everyone else not eco-fruitcake affiliated, arent for the plan either.
"The only credible evaluation of hunter approval has shown that the majority still supports the current practices."
You are a liar. Show me one "evaluation"that has shown this?The ONLY evaluations one has are the "unscientific" ones taken place on message boards, and all those through the years have been NON-herd reduction by a landslide. Taking to people anywhere in the state, asking people if they are againstthe extent of hr is like asking if they like windy coldor driving wooden splinters under their finger nails.
"Barroom chatter from thebeer enlightened experts may have you convinced but it doesn't fly in thereal world. "
Sorry pal. Havent been to a bar in years, so wouldnt know firsthand. Course I know many who do, and they, along with everyone else not eco-fruitcake affiliated, arent for the plan either.
There has been an ongoing hunter satisfaction survey since 2003 in Pa
This is the independent company doing it:
http://www.responsivemanagement.com
The published results show continued support for AR's and less but still majority support for the program overall.
Do a little homework before you spout off and save yourself some embarrassment
12-26-2008 | 05:32 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
BTW one of USP'sfounding members, past presidents and honorary life members wasarrested and convictedfor selling deer meat
BTW one of USP'sfounding members, past presidents and honorary life members wasarrested and convictedfor selling deer meat
12-26-2008 | 05:36 PM
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I dont think so moose. Maybe that account for alot of the unsuccessful hunters, but That doesnt account for many I know. Self and family included. Id bet anything I own I spend more time in the woods than you. If you think Im "unsuccessful" by any stretch, then you certainly dont know me either.
Btw, headin' out in the morning quarter til 5. Yote huntin'. You?
I can agree that alot of unsuccessful hunters who arent happy are less than "die hards". But that is fine by me. For one, they are "many" and their money is needed all thesame. and also, could you imagine if they DID hunt hard and everyonehunted as a skilled die-hard? I think pgc would beVERY happy with the deer eradication, but theyd be the only ones.
Btw, headin' out in the morning quarter til 5. Yote huntin'. You?
I can agree that alot of unsuccessful hunters who arent happy are less than "die hards". But that is fine by me. For one, they are "many" and their money is needed all thesame. and also, could you imagine if they DID hunt hard and everyonehunted as a skilled die-hard? I think pgc would beVERY happy with the deer eradication, but theyd be the only ones.
12-26-2008 | 05:37 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
ORIGINAL: bullmoose38
I would love to know the percenatge that are against the PGC. I bet a majority of the ones that hate it are the one day members of the orange army. You know the ones that hunt the Monday after Thanksgiving and thats it. i personally know many of them. To be honest in my area the ones that put their time in are real happy with the deer herd. Like I have been saying for years you only get out of something what you put into something.
I would love to know the percenatge that are against the PGC. I bet a majority of the ones that hate it are the one day members of the orange army. You know the ones that hunt the Monday after Thanksgiving and thats it. i personally know many of them. To be honest in my area the ones that put their time in are real happy with the deer herd. Like I have been saying for years you only get out of something what you put into something.
12-26-2008 | 05:37 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
ORIGINAL: bullmoose38
I would love to know the percenatge that are against the PGC. I bet a majority of the ones that hate it are the one day members of the orange army. You know the ones that hunt the Monday after Thanksgiving and thats it. i personally know many of them. To be honest in my area the ones that put their time in are real happy with the deer herd. Like I have been saying for years you only get out of something what you put into something.
I would love to know the percenatge that are against the PGC. I bet a majority of the ones that hate it are the one day members of the orange army. You know the ones that hunt the Monday after Thanksgiving and thats it. i personally know many of them. To be honest in my area the ones that put their time in are real happy with the deer herd. Like I have been saying for years you only get out of something what you put into something.
12-26-2008 | 05:41 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
If 900K hunters had scouted more ,moved more and hunted harder, would the 2007 buck harvest increased from 109k to over 500K or more. Where would those additional buck come from if we harvested 80% of our legal buck in 2007 ,according to the PGC studies?
12-26-2008 | 05:42 PM
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"You really need to do a little more checking before you call someone liar.
There has been an ongoing hunter satisfaction survey since 2003 in Pa
This is the independent company doing it:
http://www.responsivemanagement.com "
Actually I dont have to do a thing. I dont call someone liar if I dont know it for a fact, nor did I do so in this case without warrant. Im well aware of that survey and have been for quite some timeand am also well aware that it has NOTHING to do with what was stated....(nothing new there eh?) So not only are you a day late you are also a dollar short.[8D]
Please point to the questioning line where "How do you feel about the level of Herd reduction that has been implemented?" exists? THAT is exactly what I stated and you know it. I saidhunters do not support the level of hr, no way, no how.
"The published results show continued support for AR's "
Ha ha ha. SO? I couldnt care less about ar one way or the other overall. I actually believe that slightly more than half are for it quite possibly.
And nearly NOONE is for the extent of herd reduction! Even those who claim partial support of the plan usually fess up to that part. Most in the real world will tell you flat out...ITs a joke!
"Do a little homework before you spout off and save yourself some embarrassment"
Stick to the topic and quit trying to lie to get out of your own dose. The only embarrassment I feel....ALMOST...is FOR YOU.
There has been an ongoing hunter satisfaction survey since 2003 in Pa
This is the independent company doing it:
http://www.responsivemanagement.com "
Actually I dont have to do a thing. I dont call someone liar if I dont know it for a fact, nor did I do so in this case without warrant. Im well aware of that survey and have been for quite some timeand am also well aware that it has NOTHING to do with what was stated....(nothing new there eh?) So not only are you a day late you are also a dollar short.[8D]
Please point to the questioning line where "How do you feel about the level of Herd reduction that has been implemented?" exists? THAT is exactly what I stated and you know it. I saidhunters do not support the level of hr, no way, no how.
"The published results show continued support for AR's "
Ha ha ha. SO? I couldnt care less about ar one way or the other overall. I actually believe that slightly more than half are for it quite possibly.
And nearly NOONE is for the extent of herd reduction! Even those who claim partial support of the plan usually fess up to that part. Most in the real world will tell you flat out...ITs a joke!
"Do a little homework before you spout off and save yourself some embarrassment"
Stick to the topic and quit trying to lie to get out of your own dose. The only embarrassment I feel....ALMOST...is FOR YOU.
12-26-2008 | 05:44 PM
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RE: Pennsylvanians, what lawsuit?
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I dont think so moose. Maybe that account for alot of the unsuccessful hunters, but That doesnt account for many I know. Self and family included. Id bet anything I own I spend more time in the woods than you. If you think Im "unsuccessful" by any stretch, then you certainly dont know me either.
Btw, headin' out in the morning quarter til 5. Yote huntin'. You?
I dont think so moose. Maybe that account for alot of the unsuccessful hunters, but That doesnt account for many I know. Self and family included. Id bet anything I own I spend more time in the woods than you. If you think Im "unsuccessful" by any stretch, then you certainly dont know me either.
Btw, headin' out in the morning quarter til 5. Yote huntin'. You?