Pa deer season
12-11-2008 | 03:55 PM
#61
Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
RE: Pa deer season
ORIGINAL: Buck Hunter 1
Throwable must be accessible to all on the boat. That is a little fine they love to give out to you. And if your sitting on it , it ruins thier day and you will receive the "by sitting on it it ain't usable lecture" I have a Sproul type story, I was water skiing w/ my Dad driving the boat and an old mutt in the boat as a watcher. He was a good watcher as if I fell he set to howling and my dad new I was down. Well this water ways gent shows up at our dock when we pulled in and asks where our watcher was..............He said he could see the watcher thru his glasses but couldn't make out who it was. Being honest we told him how it worked.............he starts laughing, gave us a warning and went on his way. This was the late 60's when these guys had it together and weren't so danged full of het up to write the allotment of tickets. How many are like that today? When the dog died i lost a good boat companion.
Throwable must be accessible to all on the boat. That is a little fine they love to give out to you. And if your sitting on it , it ruins thier day and you will receive the "by sitting on it it ain't usable lecture" I have a Sproul type story, I was water skiing w/ my Dad driving the boat and an old mutt in the boat as a watcher. He was a good watcher as if I fell he set to howling and my dad new I was down. Well this water ways gent shows up at our dock when we pulled in and asks where our watcher was..............He said he could see the watcher thru his glasses but couldn't make out who it was. Being honest we told him how it worked.............he starts laughing, gave us a warning and went on his way. This was the late 60's when these guys had it together and weren't so danged full of het up to write the allotment of tickets. How many are like that today? When the dog died i lost a good boat companion.
12-11-2008 | 05:07 PM
#62
Fork Horn
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From: Washington County
RE: Pa deer season
ORIGINAL: sproulman
i was in charge of 270 employees at one time .
we were not allowed much overtime ,so things got bad at night and on weekends.
then top bosses decided that we be put on SALARY.
they paid us MORE than the regular 40 hr week but we could set our own hrs ,like come out at night or when WE felt we could do most good.
i cant see PGC allowing LOTS of overtime,so WCO is not going tobe able to come out OR able to get in truck and just go without be authorized to do so on OVERTIME.
by being on SALARY , wco would be in charge, if he felt that he needed to be out at 2 am, off he goes.
at least thats way it worked for us.
if the overtime is available ,then no need to do this but from what i heard at meeting with rep.hanna,there is not money for LOTS of overtime.
ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J
Why do you wish WCO's were on salary?
Why do you wish WCO's were on salary?
we were not allowed much overtime ,so things got bad at night and on weekends.
then top bosses decided that we be put on SALARY.
they paid us MORE than the regular 40 hr week but we could set our own hrs ,like come out at night or when WE felt we could do most good.
i cant see PGC allowing LOTS of overtime,so WCO is not going tobe able to come out OR able to get in truck and just go without be authorized to do so on OVERTIME.
by being on SALARY , wco would be in charge, if he felt that he needed to be out at 2 am, off he goes.
at least thats way it worked for us.
if the overtime is available ,then no need to do this but from what i heard at meeting with rep.hanna,there is not money for LOTS of overtime.
So if my district needs attention at 2 am I am out there.
12-11-2008 | 05:20 PM
#63
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Pa deer season
I think the vast majority of our WCO's do a great job and I agree that most donate a lot of off the clock time to the state. I have had several very positive encounters with WCO's and their deputies and was favorably impressed with their professionalism and consideration.
12-11-2008 | 05:34 PM
#64
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Pa deer season
I have been stopped or had contact in the field with WCO's about 5 times and the only one that checked my license was a friend I knewfrom high school. I guess he felt he had to on some kind of professional level. I didn't care....I just chuckled. They moved him to a different area because he knew everyone and it got a little uncomfortable when citations were called for. That's what I figure anyway.
12-11-2008 | 06:53 PM
#65
Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
RE: Pa deer season
ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J
We do set our own hours and have a bank of overtime to use, However I dont know a single WCO that doesnt "Donate" time during the year. This isnt a normal 9-5 job its a lifestyle.
So if my district needs attention at 2 am I am out there.
ORIGINAL: sproulman
i was in charge of 270 employees at one time .
we were not allowed much overtime ,so things got bad at night and on weekends.
then top bosses decided that we be put on SALARY.
they paid us MORE than the regular 40 hr week but we could set our own hrs ,like come out at night or when WE felt we could do most good.
i cant see PGC allowing LOTS of overtime,so WCO is not going tobe able to come out OR able to get in truck and just go without be authorized to do so on OVERTIME.
by being on SALARY , wco would be in charge, if he felt that he needed to be out at 2 am, off he goes.
at least thats way it worked for us.
if the overtime is available ,then no need to do this but from what i heard at meeting with rep.hanna,there is not money for LOTS of overtime.
ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J
Why do you wish WCO's were on salary?
Why do you wish WCO's were on salary?
we were not allowed much overtime ,so things got bad at night and on weekends.
then top bosses decided that we be put on SALARY.
they paid us MORE than the regular 40 hr week but we could set our own hrs ,like come out at night or when WE felt we could do most good.
i cant see PGC allowing LOTS of overtime,so WCO is not going tobe able to come out OR able to get in truck and just go without be authorized to do so on OVERTIME.
by being on SALARY , wco would be in charge, if he felt that he needed to be out at 2 am, off he goes.
at least thats way it worked for us.
if the overtime is available ,then no need to do this but from what i heard at meeting with rep.hanna,there is not money for LOTS of overtime.
So if my district needs attention at 2 am I am out there.
should not donate your time.
i understand its not a 9/5pm job.
but when OVERTIME is issue and money is not there,what else can be done other than having a lot of deputy wardens etc.
by paying you MORE and being on SALARY,it will not show up as much as problem when overtime is not avaialble and looked at.
OVERTIME in any business sticks out like a sore thumb, i know, i got almost removed because of spending too much overtime on my employees EVEN tho it was necessary.
they wanted to know HOW MUCH DID I RETURN TO COMPANY BY USING OVERTIME, SAME WITH WCO, HOW MUCH DID YOUR OVERTIME MAKE MONEY FOR GAME COMMISSION, I KNOW, I SAT IN MANY MEETING AND KNOW HOW TOP BRASS THINK.
many , many times i did things for no pay, as you do but it did not do any good as OVERTIME is what showed up all timeand i was always spending too much, they were never happy.
12-11-2008 | 07:39 PM
#67
Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
RE: Pa deer season
ORIGINAL: livbucks
It is actually more equitable to pay overtime, up to a point, than to hire an additional employee most times.
It is actually more equitable to pay overtime, up to a point, than to hire an additional employee most times.
its COST EFFECTIVE to put a employee on SALARY also,not my idea but the BEAN COUNTERS idea.[:@]
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