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Sylvan 01-04-2006 11:10 PM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

A deer? A coyote? A fox? Come on, Sylvan! You got to be kidding us? The animal is definitely a type of cat. I just showed the picture to my daughter and wife. They don't even know anything about this thread. They said it looks like some kind of big cat or lion.

Your in denial.
I gave you an honest answer. I saidthe picutre is too poor to tell what it is. I listed a few animals I thought with some "imagination" it could be. I even left room for the possibility that it was a ML. You on the otherhand leave no room for the possibility you could be wrong. You say it is "definitely a type of cat". And you think you're open minded and I'm not? Hmmm...

Sylvan 01-04-2006 11:17 PM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

Sylvan, what do you think about lions in the Penn. state?:)
Hello there Reb! The Nittany Lions are alive and well. Joe Pat is still there doing a great job!

Rebel Hog 01-04-2006 11:24 PM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

ORIGINAL: Sylvan


Sylvan, what do you think about lions in the Penn. state?:)
Hello there Reb! The Nittany Lions are alive and well. Joe Pat is still there doing a great job!





Sylvan 01-04-2006 11:28 PM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

"PSU says blah blah and you better not doubt it" Like the world doesn't change day to day.
I see you are from PA. My bet is you applied to Penn State and were denied admission. That could possibly explain your deep resentment. Of course you will deny it.

Sylvan 01-04-2006 11:36 PM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 




Oh no, not a Florida State grad? Go Lions!


sproulman 01-04-2006 11:54 PM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 
ND will step on JOE MUST GO tail next year in south bend,ha.

AJ52 01-05-2006 12:47 AM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

So you're saying we should take the word of a few internet nobodies over the word of all the agencies and universities with all their financial resources and staffs of literally thousands of professionals.
You have yet to supply ANY - Not ONE Shread of Evidence that may support your claim that is not at least 15-20 yrs old.

Where is the Beef!

Bring us the words of wisdom from university(s) and agencies you speak of.

PABuck_HNTR 01-05-2006 04:34 AM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

I see you are from PA. My bet is you applied to Penn State and were denied admission. That could possibly explain your deep resentment. Of course you will deny it.

Thats what I mean, You can't help yourself with insults to others and I see nowhere where anyone insults any of your alumni personally. How could they they don't know them?You justtake it personally in your own admission.A little bit thin skinned about your school.Have I laid out a few insults? Absolutely, but you do it almost in every post. In my last post I was offering some constructive criticism, but you took it as insults or are you just spinning it. Can't hardly tell with you anymore. As far as the others who you say insulted you thats between you and them,When you come across as you do, sooner or later people will start to give you back your own medicine. They feel it is the only language you tend to understand. So ifthe shoe fits. You ask someone if they could spell something and then when you are the one who couldn't spell you called it trivial. Why did you start with thatpost then? You knew you had a spelling problem then why elect to criticize somone else then when they catch you, you ty to spin out of it and make them look bad? You need to think about that. Try spending a little less time trying to look smarter than who your debating with and cutting them down and we all will have alot more respect for you.You can debate an issue without insults or trying to make people look stupid. And you know thats what your trying to do, but it is working opposite of what you planned. Your the one people are starting to laugh at. Not because "Theres Mountain Lions in Pa" , but because of your attitude toward people you debate.

Sylvan 01-05-2006 05:21 AM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 

You have yet to supply ANY - Not ONE Shread of Evidence that may support your claim that is not at least 15-20 yrs old.
I have but you refuse to aknoledge it. You are in denial. Like I told you many times, I don't claim mountain lions are not in pa it's you guys who claim they are. I simply point out that those in a position to know don't agree with you. Now I don't believe you are stupid so you must mean I claim that I haven't provided any evidence regarding what the professionals say. O.K. here's 2 more and they are current sites!...

From the Pennsylvania Game commission:
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=458&q=152442&pp=12&n=1

Pennsylvania also has lost some species to extirpation as a result of unrelenting persecution. The timber wolf and mountain lion are two classic examples. These large predators were hunted, trapped and hounded from the early 1600s until they disappeared forever in the late 1800s because Pennsylvanians were unaccustomed to sharing wild game with them, and unwilling to tolerate any livestock depredation caused by them. Never overly abundant in the commonwealth, wolves and panthers were found statewide prior to colonization. Bounties surfaced a short time after the European colonists arrived. But bounties alone didn’t eliminate these predators. Their extirpations are also linked to habitat deterioration/elimination and declines in important prey species. Roughly 200 years after its colonization, Pennsylvania lost its big cats and wolves. At the time, most people didn’t seem to mind their passing. Even today, most people are probably ok with not having those large predators roaming our woods. That’s a sign of the times and a sign of our preferences.
ex·tir·pate
TRANSITIVE VERB:
ex·tir·pat·ed , ex·tir·pat·ing , ex·tir·pates
To pull up by the roots.
To destroy totally; exterminate. See Synonyms at abolish.

From the university of Michigan (NOT PENN STATE):
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Puma_concolor.html

Historically, mountain lions had the most extensive distribution of all American terrestrial mammals. They ranged from coast to coast in North America, and from southern Argentina and Chile to southeastern Alaska. Extermination efforts, hunting pressure, and habitat destruction have restricted their range to relatively mountainous, unpopulated areas throughout much of their range. Populations in eastern North America were entirely exterminated, except for a small population of Florida panthers (Puma concolor coryi). In recent years populations have begun to expand into areas of human habitation, especially in the western United States. Mountain lions are now fairly common in suburban areas of California and have recently been sighted as far east as urban Kansas City, Missouri, where several have been hit by cars. Mountain lion sightings in eastern North America, outside of southern Florida, are still more likely to be escaped or abandoned "pet" mountain lions or other large cats.


O.K. theres 2. Now how about you produce something that supports the claim in the title of this thread "Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA ". And please, let's not play the "pet" game. We're talking wild!

[no insults here, how about you keep it going]

doughboysigep 01-05-2006 05:44 AM

RE: Mountain Lions Are Absolutely in PA (photo Added)
 
I think it is really nieve to say/think that there are ABSOLUTELY no lions in the northeast. I am not saying there are, but there is certainly the possibility that there are a few floating around (whether they are released pets or wanderers from the south - no not "stocked" animals either). Just because they were extripated in the 1800s doesn't mean they are gone forever (case in point moose in Adirondacks and deer& turkeyfor that matter). I am not convinced, but do think there is no reason they couldn't be here. My uncle (who is a reasonable man, although not a big outdoorsman) saw a big cat (he knows the difference between bobcat & lion) in the northern Catskills a few months back. Do I take his word for gospel, no, but I don't think he is lying either (no reason to). Another uncle lived close-by to there area in Otsego Co. where a lion was seen a few years back. Theseare justsome of many reports of such things. And everyone wanted pictures and a good one was posted and they still tear it apart.

It is easy to have a closed mind - you just have to say no and put no thought into it.


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