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Old 03-10-2005, 08:35 PM
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Last time me and my brother went to the range one of the miltary shells 7.62X54R split almost on half. I use it in my mosin nagent m44 carbine. The ammo was military purchased at a gunshow, I don't want to get rid ogf it because I bought an entire case. It seems the ammo has a steel case i don't reload fmj with yellow on the tips came from czeck, hug. or russia, in a big green can I had to open with a can opener.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:36 PM
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I had a M44 carbine and wish I hadnt sold it. I used the cheapest FMJ junk I could find for it. $20 bought roughly 100rnds. It was a tack driver for a old gun. Mine was a 1950 model.
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:13 AM
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I purchased my mosin nagent m44 7.62X54R at Dunham's Sporting Goods around Christmas for only $60.00 number not all matching and hungerian wood stock. I Bought this rifle because of the great use of the Russian army of the 7.62X54R, plus I love the SVD Sniper REifle but I have a policy that if I am not legal to hunt with I firearm I do not purchase them.

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http://www.gunsamerica.com/ Has a wish list option you set stats and it will email a list of firearms or whatever that matches , I get one once a day.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:30 AM
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My M44 was $106 out the door but turned around and sold it about a year later and bought a turkish 8mm mauser that was also a good shooter. Its weird how a gun that has been beat to death, dragged across god knows what, fired god knows how many times can still shoot good after so many years.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:50 AM
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I just bought another Mosin. Aimsurplus.com has some really nice M38 refurbs for $69. Got mine in the other day, other than a counterbored muzzle the thing looks brand new.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:51 AM
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Most Russian firearms are unless materials were low. The manual I got with my m-44 said it was soldier proof. Its like the AK line built to be abused. I wish all my firearms came with a chrome barrel. Could I get my firearms barrels chromed by a gunsmith or will this affect the bullet spacing.

I personally am an amateur firearms historian I love "tale of the gun" on the history channel is one of my favorite shows, hell my management final was a company report on the Sturm and Ruger company.
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:28 AM
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The yellow tip stuff is heavy ball ment to be used with machine guns. Probably why you're splitting cases, the round is alittle to hot for your gun.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:36 PM
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A lot of foreign countries do not have the monies,and resources to make the quality ammo like is made in the U.S. Especially the Slavic countries,there ammo is not of the highest grade. Thats why the price is so low,shoot it enjoy popping caps at that price and don,t worry about the brass splitting. Unless your headspace is bad,otherwise your not going to reload it anyway,just throw it away. vangunsmith
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:14 PM
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A lot of foreign countries do not have the monies,and resources to make the quality ammo like is made in the U.S. Especially the Slavic countries,there ammo is not of the highest grade. Thats why the price is so low,shoot it enjoy popping caps at that price and don,t worry about the brass splitting. Unless your headspace is bad,otherwise your not going to reload it anyway,just throw it away
I disagree.

With a surplus mauser and a correctly matched ammo, it will shoot real good, with 3 moa not being difficult to achieve. I have a Turk and a 98/22 that will shoot the cheapo turk surplus ammo much tighter yet. Yugoslavian 8mm ammo is some very good stuff and albanian and Czech 7.62x54R is better accuracywise than anything put out by remington or winchester. Remember that Czechoslovakia was the foremost small arms producer in the entire world for s stint between WWI and through WWII- this is why it was critical for the Germans to capture the Sudentenland (the heavily industrialized portion of Czechoslovakia) before they could even consider bigger fish like Poland and France.

A lot of the surplus ammo coming from Europe is just as good if not better than a lot of the US made surplus M2 ball ammo- some of which is complete junk. The bad ammo coming from Europe tends to be machinegun ammo that's loaded hotter and wasn't meant for rifles in the first place, it will still shoot in rifles, but the accuracy won't be as good and some slpit cases will happen.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:49 AM
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Last year I bought a Mosin nagant M44, I dont know wether if it was unused or arsenal refinished or what but it came from Century Arms international marked as excellent condition and all serial numbers match, It was marked $59.99 out the door after taxes it was $64 and some change. The first time to the range I had a box of wolf fmj i cant remember the grain weight and a couple boxes of czech silver tip 148 grain semi corrosive steel core stuff. The wolf ammo shot great was averaging 1 to 2 inch groups at 100 yards but was hitting 6 to 8 inches high with the sights set at the lowest point. The Czech stuff also grouped great 1 to 3 inch groups with the sight at the lowest point of adjustment the rounds were hitting dead level with the bullseye except a few inches to the left after adjusting the front sight for windage it was now dead on. that czech silvertip is all i shoot now i even shot in some vintage war rifle competitions with the stuff and managed to take second place twice and 3rd another time. I see czech brown tip and yellow tip ammo often but never bothered with it since the silver tip ammo shoots great, no sense in trying anything else especially since that silver tip ammo costs me only a mere $80 per 1000 rounds. last weekend i did buy a couple boxes of brown bear 203 grain soft points, thinking about using the M44 to take a yote or 2, gonna hit the range tomorrow and see how much different the POI is from those silver tips.
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