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Old 11-19-2004 | 08:58 PM
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i wont use em anymore except as for cheap ammo to whack groundhogs with...i had bad luck with them in the passed....i hit my second deer with the round nose 180s..i was 13..didnt buy the ammo...god only knows why dad bought them....it was less then 10 from me...ive never had a hole that big....i could put my fist in the exit....never saw such a thing....that wasnt bad...then the next year i went to PSP 165gr bullets....youth doe hunt....doe walkes down the trail like it was supposed to....i stop it....line up.....BOOM....jumps adn takes off....ya its going down.......never found it.....VERY VERY skimpy blood for maybe 30yds then NOTHING.....NOTHING to be found in 3 more hrs of searching this little set of woods....dad was a bow hunter from way back and knows about tracking deer...ive had guys that really dont like my dad much tell me that he was a heck of a bow hunter....next deer was in rifle season..lined everything up...BOOM....deer runs off...ONE drop of blood found....that was IT.....followed scuffles in the leaves for a little ways till she meet up with the herd and we lost them...i dont know if the bullets were basically exploding on impact or what...thats my guess...both deer were close...30yds and about 50yds...from a 3006....shooting groundhogs this summer with that ammo showed some nasty stuff...my friend was shooting balistic tips in a 260 and my 3006 was doing more damage....im not hunting anything important with remington ammo anymore....ive never seen a 3006 not leave blood exspecially at close range.....heck ive never had one go 30yds...makes me sick to think about them deer.....premium ammo only for me now.......ever since.....leave the cheap stuff for the groundhogs....
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Old 11-20-2004 | 09:54 AM
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You could put the word premium in front of any brand name shell, charge an extra 5$ a box, and people would buy them whether they actually performed better or not. If they didn't perform, people would find some other peice of equipment to blame it on, cause it couldn't have been the "premium" ammo.
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Old 11-21-2004 | 03:44 AM
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You could put the word premium in front of any brand name shell, charge an extra 5$ a box, and people would buy them whether they actually performed better or not. If they didn't perform, people would find some other peice of equipment to blame it on, cause it couldn't have been the "premium" ammo.
I got on the premium ammo train a few years back like everyone seems to be doing nowadays, I always used remington core lokts in my 308 and have always had good performance and accuracy with them and every deer ive shot with them ran no more the 30 or 40 yards with good thick blood trails execpt my very first deer i shot at was a horrible quartering shot and all i hit was its hind left leg in the thigh with a core lokt it ran a 1/4 mile before i found it. But one year I decided to use some quote premium ammo, Winchester ballistic silvertips because a salesman convinced me that they were "so much better" then what i was using.
on the range my core lokts held tighter groups then the silvertips did but i decided to use them anyway because i was thinking it was pushing a better bullet. The deer i shot with the ballistic silvertips was a 50 yard quartering shot with no good shots openings to the vitals i decided to go for a neck shot i pulled the trigger and the deer cart wheeled forward landed on its back got up ran 10 yards and collapsed. I was thinking wow these bullets really are kick butt i never had a deer do that before, I inspected the deers neck for an entrance but never found one though there was a heck of a exit hole in the front of its neck while field dressing the deer I noticed where the bullet went in, it hit low I had what they call a texas heart shot on my hands what mess that ballsitic tip turned all of its insides into bloody stinking mess of bowls blood and guts. I suppose i cant blame the bullet but after that I went back to core lokts and have killed 5 deer with them since. I still have 2 full boxes of winchester 168 grain ballistic silvertips I never intend to use I figured i might pop them off for the brass to reload them but at 25 dollars a box that I spent i cant push myself to do that.
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Old 11-21-2004 | 11:26 AM
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Highdesert, for me, deer is not the issue for terminal peformance. Just about any bullet out there is a great deer bullet. I look for accuracy. And usually Coreloks are all over the place. You try wieghting them, or measuring the ogive in reference to the tip, or check out velocity spreads. They are all over the place. For a 308, a good dynamic load it won't matter. I know, I got a load/gun in 308 that would could vary the bullet wieght, have runout of .007", and vary the COL by .01" and still get 1.5" groups.

You might get great accuacy out of Coreloks, but I don't think cause you do means everyone does. I reload for a FN tactical rifle in 308 that shoots factory Coreloks under 1MOA with a flyer every so many groups. It shoots my 168gr matchkings and 44gr of Varget .5MOA. Is it worth it? You bet ya.
 
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Old 11-21-2004 | 02:57 PM
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oh heck, don't cry over that, is this the worst thing that could happen to you in a year. Probably not! However, I'm a remington fan and will always stick with my remington ammo and guns. That in my opinion is just bad luck, nothing more. That deer wasn't for you, unfortunitly.
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Old 11-21-2004 | 03:40 PM
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well fellas, gotta add my .02 worth, I work in a production factory, where we manufacture millions of "pieces" a year, I can tell you having a close working relationship with the Quality Control aspect of high speed manufacturing, that ALL companies have a measured defect "aceptable margin" its called parts per million defect or ppm for short. Now Im no Remington ammunition fan by any means (in fact I will never shoot them in any gun I own) BUT, in their/and other companies defense, when you roll out millions of pieces per year, and your process has a human factor in it, they know there will be bad pieces/lots. Its something they expect, and would drive the costs up to an outragous amount if every primer,casing,bullet and loaded cartridge were inspected, and even then it would be done by humans! Just trying to add a different perspective on the subject.
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Old 11-21-2004 | 08:26 PM
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My model 700 loves the core lokt. At 100 yds i had four shots touching and two an inch away. Which i know was my fault. I hit a bull elk at 390 yards and it did a good job on that. They have taken out 6 deer to date and not one failure. They are all i shoot because they are cheap and shoot good in my gun. Like mossyoak said, with mass production you are goin to have failure. It just happens. Especially when you buy a box of ammo that is $15 a box. Remington also makes a more expensive ammo. I dont think one problem is enough to say that Remington ammo is junk.
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Old 11-22-2004 | 01:04 AM
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Heres two targets to give everyone an idea of what kind of accuracy i get with core lokts. For cheaper line ammo I cannot complain at all and Ill stand behind them and keep using them Untill I'm proved otherwise.

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Old 11-22-2004 | 08:16 AM
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I guess I don't understand HDW. Are you trying to claim everyone will get this kinda accuracy????????
 
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Old 11-22-2004 | 07:37 PM
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I have not used to many of them but they are very accurate in my 308. If fact nothing else I have tried even comes close. They have performed well for me.
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