30-06 VS 270
#22
ORIGINAL: keyshunter
Bobby,
Perhaps you should not be so dogmatic about your girlfriend's rifle selection.
Let me tell you a story. My wife hunted for years and killed many whitetails with her Marlin .30-30. She has also used my .270 and .30-06 and killed deer with both. Last year she decided that she wanted a new rifle. When I asked what caliber, she said ".270." She had made up her mind, and I did not interfere. She found a very nice .270 Rem 700 BDL. She loves this gun, and shoots it like a house afire. This accurate shooting is very important, since accuracy begets confidence. which begets accuracy, which... you get the point.
[I have hunted over much of the US during the past 49 years, and have killed whitetails, mule deer, elk and antelope with both calibers. I give a slight nod to the .30-06, but there is nothing (except possibly a grizzly) that walks in the lower 48 that cannot be dispatched quite handily with a .270.]
Bobby,
Perhaps you should not be so dogmatic about your girlfriend's rifle selection.
Let me tell you a story. My wife hunted for years and killed many whitetails with her Marlin .30-30. She has also used my .270 and .30-06 and killed deer with both. Last year she decided that she wanted a new rifle. When I asked what caliber, she said ".270." She had made up her mind, and I did not interfere. She found a very nice .270 Rem 700 BDL. She loves this gun, and shoots it like a house afire. This accurate shooting is very important, since accuracy begets confidence. which begets accuracy, which... you get the point.
[I have hunted over much of the US during the past 49 years, and have killed whitetails, mule deer, elk and antelope with both calibers. I give a slight nod to the .30-06, but there is nothing (except possibly a grizzly) that walks in the lower 48 that cannot be dispatched quite handily with a .270.]
Like I said before, I never had a 270 but I hear common responses like those that come from a lot of folks like snowball57 and Briman that will agree. If I am allowed one or the other and your out west hunting I would choose the 30-06.
Good luck, dogmatic Bobby
#23
Fork Horn
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: SW Virginia
Bobby,
Sorry I ruffled your feathers, but my comment was really not about caliber, as much as it was about allowing your girlfriend to have some input into selection of her new rifle.
You make a good case for the selecting a.30-06. Actually, over the years, I have used .30-06's more than any other caliber. For a while, I was enamoured with the magnums, but eventually went back to the good old .270 and .30-06. My first two wives shot all manner of beasts with their .30-06's.
Which brings me to another story. I think it was in 1968 that I took my first wife on her first Wyoming hunt for deer and elk. Women were a rarity in hunting camps at that time. The guides dubbed us "Hansel and Gretel" (we didn't find this out until later), probably because we were both blonde and looked very young. I suspect that they wondered if she knew how to shoot her .30-06, and how much time they were going to have to spend tracking wounded animals. She shot a 5 point bull and a 4 point mulie with one shot each, and neither went more than 30 yards. My shooting , which was pretty good also, was totally ignored while the guides made a fuss over "Gretel".
Sorry I ruffled your feathers, but my comment was really not about caliber, as much as it was about allowing your girlfriend to have some input into selection of her new rifle.
You make a good case for the selecting a.30-06. Actually, over the years, I have used .30-06's more than any other caliber. For a while, I was enamoured with the magnums, but eventually went back to the good old .270 and .30-06. My first two wives shot all manner of beasts with their .30-06's.
Which brings me to another story. I think it was in 1968 that I took my first wife on her first Wyoming hunt for deer and elk. Women were a rarity in hunting camps at that time. The guides dubbed us "Hansel and Gretel" (we didn't find this out until later), probably because we were both blonde and looked very young. I suspect that they wondered if she knew how to shoot her .30-06, and how much time they were going to have to spend tracking wounded animals. She shot a 5 point bull and a 4 point mulie with one shot each, and neither went more than 30 yards. My shooting , which was pretty good also, was totally ignored while the guides made a fuss over "Gretel".
#24
Joined: Oct 2003
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.270 is a fine deer hunting rifle. In fact it's what I use for deer here in Texas. I also have a .30-06.
I would get a 7STW if I were you. balistically better than both the .30-06 and .270. Strong enough to take big game.
I would get a 7STW if I were you. balistically better than both the .30-06 and .270. Strong enough to take big game.
#25
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
"30-06 is the Jack of all trades but master of none" heard this on forums before and liked it. I believe that the 270 is the best whitetail cartridge around, 270 wsm even better.
Cheers!!
Cheers!!
#26
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Michigan
Both are excellent...each has a slight edge over the other in a few small ways. Anybody with only one gun in either cartridge has a fine wide-range weapon. There isn't enough practical difference between them to get your shorts in a bunch.
I own a 30/06 but not a .270.....not because I don't like the .270 but only b/c I also own a .243, several 6.5 X 55's, a 7 X 57 and a .300 Savage. Those other rifles cover a lot of ground with much overlap. I know that the .270 would give me a little more of some things than any of my other rifles, but not so much that I need the .270 right now.
I think the .270 is one of the finest cartidges going....with it's parent case it would have to be. The combination of powder capacity and bullet diameter make it a very flat and quick killing cartirdge. Someday I hope to own one...but do not at all feel handicapped without one at this time.
I own a 30/06 but not a .270.....not because I don't like the .270 but only b/c I also own a .243, several 6.5 X 55's, a 7 X 57 and a .300 Savage. Those other rifles cover a lot of ground with much overlap. I know that the .270 would give me a little more of some things than any of my other rifles, but not so much that I need the .270 right now.
I think the .270 is one of the finest cartidges going....with it's parent case it would have to be. The combination of powder capacity and bullet diameter make it a very flat and quick killing cartirdge. Someday I hope to own one...but do not at all feel handicapped without one at this time.
#28
Keyshunter, the only feathers thats going to get ruffled here is the gobbler that I'll be poppin this spring. I'm not out to change anyones mind, if you like what you have for your type of hunting then don't change it. It was a vague question by 270 winchester, in not mentioning what he was going to be using it for.
His original question and lets stick to the point was, "that the 270 was ballisticaly better, performance is great and is very dependable." (?) This phrase probably could be stero-typed to represent any gun(s) in our arsenal. My Remington 700 30-06 meets the criteria.
So far those who have stated there opinion has been:
9 votes for the 30-06
4 for the 270
9 undecided or no dif
Diyj98--?
Everybody answered this question on how they are going to use it and as long as it works for your style hunting, don't change a thing, Bobby
His original question and lets stick to the point was, "that the 270 was ballisticaly better, performance is great and is very dependable." (?) This phrase probably could be stero-typed to represent any gun(s) in our arsenal. My Remington 700 30-06 meets the criteria.
So far those who have stated there opinion has been:
9 votes for the 30-06
4 for the 270
9 undecided or no dif
Diyj98--?
Everybody answered this question on how they are going to use it and as long as it works for your style hunting, don't change a thing, Bobby
#29
Here is 270win post which I referred to in my reply.
magnum hunters
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i have a 44 rem mag which is a beast. i also have a 300 rem ultra mag which is almost too much. i shot a spike in the shoulders and it just blood shot the meet. what do you think
Now given the fact the man owns a 30 cal capable of handling anything big, I would say he's picked the 270 for a reason - the small to average sized biggame ie;deer. Now when I look at what he has and maybe is missing it certainly isn't a 3006, because the RUM will beat it hands down for the applications of big or dangerous game....so therefore one would say go with a smaller, faster, flatter caliber offering some diversity to his gun locker. Others would fit the bill very nicely as well like the 7mm-08, 25-06, 260 rem and so on. I am sorry I just don't see how a 3006 will give him any benefit over a 270. If he was buying only one rifle for everything sure then you can argue the merits of the 3006, just isn't the case here.
BTW I owned a 3006 and still have a 270. Although right now my all arounder is a 7rm mag. I don't have a problem with the 3006 it is a good choice just don't see any great advantages(practically) to it over other calibers.
Bobby, that's right you tell the little woman who's the boss
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magnum hunters
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i have a 44 rem mag which is a beast. i also have a 300 rem ultra mag which is almost too much. i shot a spike in the shoulders and it just blood shot the meet. what do you think
Now given the fact the man owns a 30 cal capable of handling anything big, I would say he's picked the 270 for a reason - the small to average sized biggame ie;deer. Now when I look at what he has and maybe is missing it certainly isn't a 3006, because the RUM will beat it hands down for the applications of big or dangerous game....so therefore one would say go with a smaller, faster, flatter caliber offering some diversity to his gun locker. Others would fit the bill very nicely as well like the 7mm-08, 25-06, 260 rem and so on. I am sorry I just don't see how a 3006 will give him any benefit over a 270. If he was buying only one rifle for everything sure then you can argue the merits of the 3006, just isn't the case here.
BTW I owned a 3006 and still have a 270. Although right now my all arounder is a 7rm mag. I don't have a problem with the 3006 it is a good choice just don't see any great advantages(practically) to it over other calibers.
Bobby, that's right you tell the little woman who's the boss

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