Springfield Armory XD
08-26-2008, 09:33 AM
#21
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Springfield Armory XD
ORIGINAL: driftrider
Another pic.
Another pic.
From Glock themselves:
http://www.glock.com/english/index_options.htm
I should have been specific that this is what Glock calls this on their firearm. While I do agree that the factory slide stop is a tad small to be used as a slide release, I think you are exaggerating its level of difficulty. My 8 year old son can operate it, so itcan't be that hard to accomplish. As a former Marine(assuming you are no longer active)I'm sure you have excellent combat training and can competently operate many different firearms. As a LEO I have trained with many different weapons as well. The slide does not have to be moved very far at all to release the slide.You do bringup a good point about a weak hand injury. I have been trained(as I'm sure you have as well) to use the heel of your boot, your belt, a rock or any other thing you can to rack the slide. The slide can be released on the Glock in the same manner. With practice it can be done quickly as well.
08-26-2008, 12:41 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Springfield Armory XD
Yes, you do whatever you have to do with whatever you have available, but using the slide release is by far the optimum way to send the slide home. I've owned one Glock, which was a Glock 21, so it might have been just my pistol, but it was definately very hard to use in the stock form. I also have large hands and getting my big thumb on that little lever wasn't easy for me. With the aftermarket extended slide release it wasn't a problem, but I guess I feel that this should be something that shouldn't be an issue for anyone. I own, or have owned, a Glock, an H&K USP, a Beretta 92FS (in addition to the M9 service pistol I carried in the Corps) and the XD, and I've shot various forms of the 1911, and the Glock is the only one that uses such a small and hard to use slide release lever. But like I said, if Glock would put the extended lever as stock equipment then it'd be on par with the others. But in the factory form, the XD, by comparison is better in this regard.
I guess my point is that I feel that the XD is a better, more refined design that makes up for what I percieve to be some of the shortcomings of the Glock. But I also do honestly think that the Glocks are a decent and capable defensive pistol for those who like them and are comfortable with them, but they not for me and I'll never own another one.
Mike
I guess my point is that I feel that the XD is a better, more refined design that makes up for what I percieve to be some of the shortcomings of the Glock. But I also do honestly think that the Glocks are a decent and capable defensive pistol for those who like them and are comfortable with them, but they not for me and I'll never own another one.
Mike
08-26-2008, 01:44 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Springfield Armory XD
ORIGINAL: driftrider
Yes, you do whatever you have to do with whatever you have available, but using the slide release is by far the optimum way to send the slide home. I've owned one Glock, which was a Glock 21, so it might have been just my pistol, but it was definately very hard to use in the stock form. I also have large hands and getting my big thumb on that little lever wasn't easy for me. With the aftermarket extended slide release it wasn't a problem, but I guess I feel that this should be something that shouldn't be an issue for anyone. I own, or have owned, a Glock, an H&K USP, a Beretta 92FS (in addition to the M9 service pistol I carried in the Corps) and the XD, and I've shot various forms of the 1911, and the Glock is the only one that uses such a small and hard to use slide release lever. But like I said, if Glock would put the extended lever as stock equipment then it'd be on par with the others. But in the factory form, the XD, by comparison is better in this regard.
I guess my point is that I feel that the XD is a better, more refined design that makes up for what I percieve to be some of the shortcomings of the Glock. But I also do honestly think that the Glocks are a decent and capable defensive pistol for those who like them and are comfortable with them, but they not for me and I'll never own another one.
Mike
Yes, you do whatever you have to do with whatever you have available, but using the slide release is by far the optimum way to send the slide home. I've owned one Glock, which was a Glock 21, so it might have been just my pistol, but it was definately very hard to use in the stock form. I also have large hands and getting my big thumb on that little lever wasn't easy for me. With the aftermarket extended slide release it wasn't a problem, but I guess I feel that this should be something that shouldn't be an issue for anyone. I own, or have owned, a Glock, an H&K USP, a Beretta 92FS (in addition to the M9 service pistol I carried in the Corps) and the XD, and I've shot various forms of the 1911, and the Glock is the only one that uses such a small and hard to use slide release lever. But like I said, if Glock would put the extended lever as stock equipment then it'd be on par with the others. But in the factory form, the XD, by comparison is better in this regard.
I guess my point is that I feel that the XD is a better, more refined design that makes up for what I percieve to be some of the shortcomings of the Glock. But I also do honestly think that the Glocks are a decent and capable defensive pistol for those who like them and are comfortable with them, but they not for me and I'll never own another one.
Mike
All I was pointing out was in its original design, the Glock slide stop lever is not designed to be a slide release. I guess we can agree to disagree
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08-26-2008, 05:54 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Springfield Armory XD
You mention that you owned a Glock 21. The Glock 20/21 has a larger frame/grip area than the other Glocks so maybe that was the problem? Most complaints that I hear about the G20/21 center around how big and fat the grip area is.
All I was pointing out was in its original design, the Glock slide stop lever is not designed to be a slide release. I guess we can agree to disagree.
Mike
