There are alot more 1000-yard rifles than there are 1000-yard SHOOTERS! This whole subject is ridiculous!

When I was younger, I was trained to shoot things from a long way off. It took specialized equipment that I couldn't afford to buy myself and tons of practice. I wouldn't take shots that long now. For one, I am woefully out of practice, for another, there's no way I'm going to spend the bucks it would take to have a rifle that can do it. Oh, and there is the problem of the woods where I hunt. I'm lucky if I can see 100 meters, so there's very little chance at a shot onger than that. If someone is fortunate enough to have the money, time, and terrain needed to take shots at 1000+, then good on 'em.

I also don't think guys hunting over bait or food plots are somehow less of a hunter than those who do not. I have the opportunity to hunt over a food plot on private land and sometimes I do. More often than not, I wind up in the National Forest, just because it's what I like. I seem to see the same number of animals at both locations. And I have had better shot opportunities over the food plot.

I just don't know why this is an issue. When I played golf, an average length par-4's green was in my range with a driver. Did that make me an unethical golfer?

First off thanks for the responses. I was sucked in to the whole ultra mag thing for a little bit but after paying a 1.25 for brass and whole lot more for factory cartridges I am back to the 30/06. I am muzzleloader deer hunting this year and 200 yrds is what I have been practicing at. It is a Heck of a long way for a red dot and a 460 gr. bullet. I can be fairly consistant at that distance on the bench however not in a field position. I will keep my shots at around 125 were I can consistantly hit a 5" circle in a kneeling position. So this is my first year with the muzzleloader and I have spent alot of time shooting the smoke pole to get where I am at.

So now I pick up the 30/06 with its 3x9 burris on it and it feels a whole lot like cheating. Everyone has there personal limits while hunting. I am sure that as you get more and more comfortable with a rifle over time that will grow.Or you will decide you are at your comfort point, and are happy to stay where you are at.





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I was talking with a brother in law who went to a long range shooting course and the instructor, had for purchase and whole heartedly recomended the 30-378 weatherby rifle's. He told them it is the only cartridge that had enough energy ft. lbs at a 1,000 yrds to kill a big game animal up to elk. One guy there for the class had a 300 ultra remington mag. The instructor told him that would be a good 800 yrd cartridge but if he wanted 1,000 yard big game rifle he needed the 30-378 weatherby to make it. Mind you he was not pushing his rifle's for purchase but had them there as an offer. I do not shoot out to 1,000 yrds nor do i intend to (for big game). But I can't believe that the 300 RUM is a 800 yrd cartridge while the 30-378 Wby is a 1,000 yrd. I wondered what you all thought of this. The 7 RUM and 300 have the same case I believe.




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There are alot more 1000-yard rifles than there are 1000-yard SHOOTERS! This whole subject is ridiculous!

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There are a lot more 1,000 yrd guns than shooters. this is for sure but as far as this subject being ridiculous. It is something the firearm industry is going to continue pushing new bigger and better. That is how the keep selling cartridges. ( Whatwould happen if people found out that you can be effective at taking game at with a standard cartridge all hell would break loose. )The firearm industry selling more rifles and hopping up cartridges is good for all us shooters it will help keep our sport alive. I am not a long range shooter nor do I intend to take a class on it.But I will always try to better myself in this sport and that includes, shooting better further.

Thats a good attitude. There is nothing in the world wrong with long range shooting. However to me it just as rewarding to ring a 1000 yard gong as it is to shoot at an animal at that range. Then if and when you miss the mark, its no harm no foul.

10-4 Good Buddy!

Here's my take. Backing off or remaining at these distances on purpose just to see if you can still hit the animal is target shooting not hunting. If you are trying to get closer but have to take shots of this distance because you can'tmake it within1000 yards without spooking the animals you intend to shoot, then you are actually trying to hunt; you just suck very, very, badly at it. I'll leave it to the ones taking 1000 yard shots to tell us which applies to them.

Well said!