First off thanks for the responses. I was sucked in to the whole ultra mag thing for a little bit but after paying a 1.25 for brass and whole lot more for factory cartridges I am back to the 30/06. I am muzzleloader deer hunting this year and 200 yrds is what I have been practicing at. It is a Heck of a long way for a red dot and a 460 gr. bullet. I can be fairly consistant at that distance on the bench however not in a field position. I will keep my shots at around 125 were I can consistantly hit a 5" circle in a kneeling position. So this is my first year with the muzzleloader and I have spent alot of time shooting the smoke pole to get where I am at.

So now I pick up the 30/06 with its 3x9 burris on it and it feels a whole lot like cheating. Everyone has there personal limits while hunting. I am sure that as you get more and more comfortable with a rifle over time that will grow.Or you will decide you are at your comfort point, and are happy to stay where you are at.





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I was talking with a brother in law who went to a long range shooting course and the instructor, had for purchase and whole heartedly recomended the 30-378 weatherby rifle's. He told them it is the only cartridge that had enough energy ft. lbs at a 1,000 yrds to kill a big game animal up to elk. One guy there for the class had a 300 ultra remington mag. The instructor told him that would be a good 800 yrd cartridge but if he wanted 1,000 yard big game rifle he needed the 30-378 weatherby to make it. Mind you he was not pushing his rifle's for purchase but had them there as an offer. I do not shoot out to 1,000 yrds nor do i intend to (for big game). But I can't believe that the 300 RUM is a 800 yrd cartridge while the 30-378 Wby is a 1,000 yrd. I wondered what you all thought of this. The 7 RUM and 300 have the same case I believe.




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There are alot more 1000-yard rifles than there are 1000-yard SHOOTERS! This whole subject is ridiculous!

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There are a lot more 1,000 yrd guns than shooters. this is for sure but as far as this subject being ridiculous. It is something the firearm industry is going to continue pushing new bigger and better. That is how the keep selling cartridges. ( Whatwould happen if people found out that you can be effective at taking game at with a standard cartridge all hell would break loose. )The firearm industry selling more rifles and hopping up cartridges is good for all us shooters it will help keep our sport alive. I am not a long range shooter nor do I intend to take a class on it.But I will always try to better myself in this sport and that includes, shooting better further.