Bullet Placement
01-16-2007 | 06:40 PM
#41
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From: Evadale, Texas
RE: Bullet Placement
ok then, lets just say You shoot where your happy with; and i will shoot where i am happy with. Havnt had one run off and not be found yet. People botch shots all the time; no matter where they are aiming to hit. We took a yearlin when i was around 16 that had its entire rear ham blown to bits by a hunter. I had ganegreen set in, i have seen deer and hogs with arrows sticking out of there ribs. ANY shot can be a botched shot, even myne, even yours.
01-16-2007 | 08:46 PM
#42
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RE: Bullet Placement
I'm still waiting to hear someone explain thereasonsfor taking a neck or head shot compared to a heart/lung shot. No one eats deer ribs so damaging edible meat is not a valid reason. The only advantage I can think of is that a hit to the CNS of a deer will produce more dropped right there kills when all goes right compared to the 30 to 40 yard death dash of a heart lung hit. So basically you have people taking a much higher risk shot just so they can brag that the deer hit the ground right where he was standing. And that's a really big deal because,..... because,....... because,...... oh wait, Dang, now that I think about it I realize thatit's completely meaningless whether a deer hits the ground right there or runs 30 yards.
01-16-2007 | 09:54 PM
#43
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From: Texas
RE: Bullet Placement
ORIGINAL: Todd1700
I'm still waiting to hear someone explain thereasonsfor taking a neck or head shot compared to a heart/lung shot. No one eats deer ribs so damaging edible meat is not a valid reason. The only advantage I can think of is that a hit to the CNS of a deer will produce more dropped right there kills when all goes right compared to the 30 to 40 yard death dash of a heart lung hit. So basically you have people taking a much higher risk shot just so they can brag that the deer hit the ground right where he was standing. And that's a really big deal because,..... because,....... because,...... oh wait, Dang, now that I think about it I realize thatit's completely meaningless whether a deer hits the ground right there or runs 30 yards.
I'm still waiting to hear someone explain thereasonsfor taking a neck or head shot compared to a heart/lung shot. No one eats deer ribs so damaging edible meat is not a valid reason. The only advantage I can think of is that a hit to the CNS of a deer will produce more dropped right there kills when all goes right compared to the 30 to 40 yard death dash of a heart lung hit. So basically you have people taking a much higher risk shot just so they can brag that the deer hit the ground right where he was standing. And that's a really big deal because,..... because,....... because,...... oh wait, Dang, now that I think about it I realize thatit's completely meaningless whether a deer hits the ground right there or runs 30 yards.
Cause you dont want to track an animal in the South Texas brush.
Cause it doesnt ruin meat.
Cause of the thrill factor.
Cause I can.
Cause the less stressed an animal the better the meat.
Cause its getting dark.
Cause I dont want it going in the neighbors property.
Cause I use a.22 in populated areas.
Cause sometimes its the only shot.
Cause it coooooool.
Thats eneough for now.
01-16-2007 | 10:26 PM
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RE: Bullet Placement
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot
Cause it's the most humane way to kill an animal.
Cause you dont want to track an animal in the South Texas brush.
Cause it doesnt ruin meat.
Cause of the thrill factor.
Cause I can.
Cause the less stressed an animal the better the meat.
Cause its getting dark.
Cause I dont want it going in the neighbors property.
Cause I use a.22 in populated areas.
Cause sometimes its the only shot.
Cause it coooooool.
Thats eneough for now.
ORIGINAL: Todd1700
I'm still waiting to hear someone explain thereasonsfor taking a neck or head shot compared to a heart/lung shot. No one eats deer ribs so damaging edible meat is not a valid reason. The only advantage I can think of is that a hit to the CNS of a deer will produce more dropped right there kills when all goes right compared to the 30 to 40 yard death dash of a heart lung hit. So basically you have people taking a much higher risk shot just so they can brag that the deer hit the ground right where he was standing. And that's a really big deal because,..... because,....... because,...... oh wait, Dang, now that I think about it I realize thatit's completely meaningless whether a deer hits the ground right there or runs 30 yards.
I'm still waiting to hear someone explain thereasonsfor taking a neck or head shot compared to a heart/lung shot. No one eats deer ribs so damaging edible meat is not a valid reason. The only advantage I can think of is that a hit to the CNS of a deer will produce more dropped right there kills when all goes right compared to the 30 to 40 yard death dash of a heart lung hit. So basically you have people taking a much higher risk shot just so they can brag that the deer hit the ground right where he was standing. And that's a really big deal because,..... because,....... because,...... oh wait, Dang, now that I think about it I realize thatit's completely meaningless whether a deer hits the ground right there or runs 30 yards.
Cause you dont want to track an animal in the South Texas brush.
Cause it doesnt ruin meat.
Cause of the thrill factor.
Cause I can.
Cause the less stressed an animal the better the meat.
Cause its getting dark.
Cause I dont want it going in the neighbors property.
Cause I use a.22 in populated areas.
Cause sometimes its the only shot.
Cause it coooooool.
Thats eneough for now.
01-17-2007 | 09:40 AM
#45
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From: Pine Hill Alabama USA
RE: Bullet Placement
Cause it's the most humane way to kill an animal.
Cause you dont want to track an animal in the South Texas brush.
Cause it doesnt ruin meat.
Cause of the thrill factor.
Cause I can.
Cause it coooooool.
Cause I can.
Cause it coooooool.
Cause the less stressed an animal the better the meat.
Cause its getting dark.
Cause I dont want it going in the neighbors property.
.
Cause I use a.22 in populated areas.
Cause I use a.22 in populated areas.
Cause sometimes its the only shot.
01-17-2007 | 07:36 PM
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From: Evadale, Texas
RE: Bullet Placement
BC: It was a bullet placement thread not limited to deer.
Todd1700, now your just being stupid.
as for 30-40 yards after a heart lung shot, I have seen and had to track deer probly close to a mile before after an ATTEMPTED heart/lung shot from more than one VERY seasoned hunter. If you think for one second im gonna beleave you are a better shot or a better hunter than anyone from my former lease you are sadly mistaken. These are guys been hunting and shooting for 30-40+years and botch shots. How is it "MUCH HIGHER RISK"? There is just as much if not MORE risk involved in the heart lung shot. More area to pull/jerk and wound a animal than my shot choice. If I miss the neck, if im off by 1-2" im still hitting the massive V of the neck and the ballistics of the ammo will do the rest. On hogs I aim like RebelHog said, behind the ear. One Deer i go for the V. Personal pref, you dont have to shoot the same if you dont want to .
and zrexpilot
Yea I agree with that too.
Todd1700, now your just being stupid.
I'm still waiting to hear someone explain thereasonsfor taking a neck or head shot compared to a heart/lung shot. No one eats deer ribs so damaging edible meat is not a valid reason. The only advantage I can think of is that a hit to the CNS of a deer will produce more dropped right there kills when all goes right compared to the 30 to 40 yard death dash of a heart lung hit. So basically you have people taking a much higher risk shot just so they can brag that the deer hit the ground right where he was standing. And that's a really big deal because,..... because,....... because,...... oh wait, Dang, now that I think about it I realize thatit's completely meaningless whether a deer hits the ground right there or runs 30 yards.
and zrexpilot
Cause I can.
01-17-2007 | 08:19 PM
#48
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From: Port Neches, Texas
RE: Bullet Placement
Sounds like some folks like to shoot, but don't like to HUNT!
Aiming for the center of heart/lung area, will give you at least 3X the margin for error, and still be lethal, QUICKLY!
I have never heard of a lung/heart shot deer going any where near a mile before expiring! Most within 50 yards!
"Because I can," is never a good excuse for doing ANYTHING!
Having to track onto another's property and/or other hunters getting your deer, is the best argument that can be given FOR head shots! Weighing that against the things that can go wrong with head shots, MORE than cancels out that factor!
If it weren't so RIDICULOUS, the use of a light, high-power cartridge, because of a populated area would be HILARIOUS!
Keep writing! Your making the BEST argument AGAINST your own self!
Yeah, it may be legal, but sooner or later you'll find out for yourself that its wrong! There's much more to HUNTING than SHOOTING!
Aiming for the center of heart/lung area, will give you at least 3X the margin for error, and still be lethal, QUICKLY!
I have never heard of a lung/heart shot deer going any where near a mile before expiring! Most within 50 yards!
"Because I can," is never a good excuse for doing ANYTHING!
Having to track onto another's property and/or other hunters getting your deer, is the best argument that can be given FOR head shots! Weighing that against the things that can go wrong with head shots, MORE than cancels out that factor!
If it weren't so RIDICULOUS, the use of a light, high-power cartridge, because of a populated area would be HILARIOUS!
Keep writing! Your making the BEST argument AGAINST your own self!
Yeah, it may be legal, but sooner or later you'll find out for yourself that its wrong! There's much more to HUNTING than SHOOTING!
01-17-2007 | 08:30 PM
#49
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From: Port Neches, Texas
RE: Bullet Placement
An old Cajun saying: "It is better to leave your keypad idle, and let people think that you are stupid, than to write written proof, for the world to see that you ARE"
01-17-2007 | 08:38 PM
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RE: Bullet Placement
ORIGINAL: JagMagMan
An old Cajun saying: "It is better to leave your keypad idle, and let people think that you are stupid, than to write written proof, for the world to see that you ARE"
An old Cajun saying: "It is better to leave your keypad idle, and let people think that you are stupid, than to write written proof, for the world to see that you ARE"
