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Old 04-06-2005, 08:07 PM
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I was wondering who has this site and what do u guys think of it? Also im going to be practicing mostly at night and i wanted to know if the little light that u buy that attaches to the site if its any good at night? Its called Copper John Dead Nuts™ Afterburner Light Assembly.

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Old 04-06-2005, 08:43 PM
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After hearing about elkcrazy8's experience I would not buy them at all. His bent on him at a major 3-D shoot costing him a chance at being at the top. His bow feel out of a holder and into soft dirt and it bent the sight. If it will bend that easy I sure wouldn't trust it for hunting.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:25 PM
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I bought one and couldn't be happier. That story was the first bad story about Copper John's sites I have ever heard. I am sure something caused the sites to break in the 3-d shoot, and when a bow falls out of a stand there is no such thing as soft dirt.[:-]
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:32 PM
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All I've had is a couple broken pins. They seem to break a little easier than others. Other than that I have been very happy, except I wish the sight ring was a little smaller in diameter.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:53 PM
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The problem I encountered was with the ANTS sight. The bow tipped over on the pro-pod I was using and the sight bar bent. Copper John is sending the new bar and has recognized the problem with the softness of the metal on the sight bar. The customer service was great and they are sending a new bar. I have heard of alot of problems with the ANTS sight. I also have a deadnuts pro 3 and will not use it for my hunting sight because of the fact of what happened to my target sight. The deadnuts might be o.k. in that aspect but I just don't trust them now. The pins of the pro 3 are prone to breakage, notice that this company came out with a pin guard for the pins. That tells me that they are trying to protect the pins. For further information.............the bow did not fall out of a stand, it was in a propod. It was only the weight of the bow tipping over that bent the sight bar, and I know that my hunting bow is subject to much greater forces when chasing elk. I still managed to sight in as I shot and ended up qualifying for the Worlds in snowshoe though so it wasn't a total loss.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:46 AM
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I have used the Deadnuts for 3 years now and havent had any problems with it what so ever,not even a broken pin.
I just cant imagine a site bar made of machined alluminum bend,with a fall of maybe a foot with your bows weight of a little over 4 lbs accesorized,Something is just not right here.Then again I dont think I am familiar with you site(ANTS)Can someone fill me in as to what this site is?

I am familiar with the pro-3 site and with a solid piece of alluminum site bar,I wouldent think you would have any problems in the strength department.
And as for the CUP protective cover,I personally think its a great idea,same as the covers to protect expensive scopes.I think every site that houses pins is subject to break if a stick is shoved through the pin guard.A little added insurance when in the boonies looking for your trophy and you dont have a back-up site.I think money well spent.

Sorry Newb---I havent used the Afterburner lite for the site yet so I cant respond on it,but I do know alot of members have it and like it alot.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default RE: Question about Copper John Site.

The A.N.T.S. sight is a target sight for 3-d and indoor target shooting. Not really applicable for the deadnuts hunting line. If a the pressure exerted from a 4 lb. bow can bend the extension bar, then it could easily be bent by hand, and I don't see any company building a sight that could be bent that easily, especially when paying $250 for the sight. I tried to bend my deaduts just now and there is no way that I could bend it with my hands.
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:01 PM
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I've used Copper John sights for over 3 years and never had one I'd consider weak.

Matter of factly, I drop tested mine last season from about 25 + feet. It was unintentional, ( I dozed off on an evening hunt ) and watched it slam into the ground under my climber, along with my bow. [8D][&:]

The sight was unharmed. I sighted the bow in, (since the rest didn't fair all that well), and harvested a very nice buck the following week. Same sight.

I've used the Pro and the hunter models that Copper John offers, along with the afterburner light. No issues with either product. As far as the pin gaurd, (AKA Dead Nuts Cup), it's made to protect the pin fiber from being snagged on brush, sticks and the like, not to protect otherwise weak pins as suggested.
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:30 PM
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i have the dead nuts hunter sight and ive never had any problems...i love the sight
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:46 PM
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Great news. I received the prototype bar for the ANTS sight. It is a heck of alot sturdier tha the original. I am pleased with the customer service and that the company realized the mistake that they had made with the production of the original sight. I might just keep shooting the sight and hope that there are no future problems. I would have to admit that it left a bad taste in my mouth, when I have been getting reading for the first leg of the triple crown since last november only to have a sight bar bend with such little force in the middle to the course.
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