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Rattling in areas with low buck/doe ratios?? (Northeast)

Old 10-05-2004, 02:54 PM
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Well as some of you know, I tagged my Vermont doe on Sunday. I am now faced with the task of filling my Vermont archery buck tag, not an easy task in this area with the low percentage of bucks to does in Vermont. In my experience, I had success with rattling in the last week of October in PA, but I was hunting on my fathers land with was managed VERY well for buck/doe populations and had a ratio of approx 1 buck to every 4 does. In Vermont I am assuming it is more like 1 buck to every 10 does, and 90% of the bucks here are yearlings. I have the entire week of Oct. 10th to hunt as I am between jobs starting this Thursday, and don't start my new one till 10/18 (how convenient ).

What kind of success have people had in areas with similar buck/doe ratios, and has anyone had success in the northeast as early as the middle of October? Have any of you had luck in rattling in younger bucks in areas like this rattling at that time of year? Any other ideas you might have for bagging a buck during this week?

I can't wait till next season, I am moving just north of Albany, NY for my new job and hopefully will be able to get permission to hunt that area as well for archery, then I will be able to bowhunt VT, NY, and PA.
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:55 AM
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Bump.......

There has to be some people on here with experience rattling in the northeast.
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:25 AM
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I'm in So. MD and have tried rattleing a few times. I'm not saying a ton but a few times. I've had small bucks (spikes and forks) come in but that's about it. Nothing worth shooting. I stopped trying because I feel that if a buck is with a doe or two why would he go check out a fight. There's plenty of does to go around so I doubt it would work on big boys.
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Old 10-06-2004, 03:32 PM
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Hey Hey, Solax I am also from St. Mary county. Perhaps we could hook up and talk about hunting sometimes?


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Old 10-06-2004, 07:48 PM
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I'm not an expert, but I think when the buck to doe ratio is all out of wack(like it is here) that bucks don't fight all that often. I think they're too busy running ragged just trying to keep all the does bred. I'm not saying that sparring matches between bucks are non existent, but think about it, would you fight me over a girl if her 65 twin sisters were right down the street?
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:13 AM
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Rattling isn't the best tactic for low buck to doe ratios. Hunting these areas are hard. No calls, no rattling, no scents, no nothing. Scouting year round, taking inventory of properties, not overhunting a particular area, staying mobile, pattern the deer movement. Intimate knowledge of you hunting area. You need to locate as many buck bedding areas, never stop scouting and add to them over a lifetime. You need to lower your standards in the northeast. Its not a heavily cropped part of the U.S. deer numbers and herd qualities are nothing like you see in indiana, ohio, iowa. deep snow in the winter hurts the pop as well when the snowpack crusts over the predators have the advantage and the herd suffers. There is no magic bullet that works everytime. Scout, scout, scout. Find doe bedding areas, find feeding areas, find buck bedding areas. Follow deer trails in winter with gps, mark all these areas. The one constant is change. Every year is different, every deer has there own personality. The bedding areas never change. They bed there year after year for a reason, security, wind currents, escape routes, foods ect. Alot of the northeast is high pressure as well. September and october bowhunting is your best shot before the masses come out for rifle season.
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:18 AM
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Down a tree off buck bedding just outside of his staging area to try and expand his afternoon travels in shooting light. It creates a funnel and natural security for him. Make secondary trails impassable or block them with stinky socks. If you manipulate too much he will stop using area. stay mobile only do virgin sits, once he smells you in area he knows hes being hunted. youll either blow him out of the area or he will become nocturnal. Play the wind. Concealment, the heavier the better. bucks have learned to look up. Being 30-60ft in air is not always the right approach if you stick out like a sore thumb. if you have better concealment at 8-20ft your better off unless you're hunting from above the canopy. The first 10-15 feet in the maine woods has a dense understory. Be prepared mentally, tactically. A buck will almost always come in when you least expect him to. You have to be mentally sharp and being primal helps with buck fever. Feel dominant. Your window to get a kill shot off may only be 10 seconds. You need all of those seconds to draw and train your bow on him. Bucks are extremely weary. Don't draw too soon, he will hang you out to dry. In most of maine, you have to lower your standards and be a opportunist hunter. That one buck you see, may be the only one you see all year unless you have one pegged. To be constantly successful year in and year out. You have to take what the land provides and acquire intimate knowledge of the deer habits through a lifetime of scouting and hunting. To move up to trophy kills every year. All the deer scents, calls, decoys is garbage. There is no magic bullet that will consistently work here in maine. Sure it may work randomly here and there. But it puts them on alert. There is no substitute for scouting, stand placement, playing the wind, being prepared, staying quiet, staying still, being mobile, entering your setup area stealthily, lowering your standards until you have a trophy pegged, and being confident a buck is coming your way because you've put the work in. And thats how you become consistently successful. Work. Hard work. Blood and sweat.
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