To gut or not to gut?
05-04-2004 | 11:42 AM
#71
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
Hey mouse,
Don't forget to explain how the critters feed on what you don't take from a deer.........since you don't process in the field and take your game back to the shed to debone..........how does that wasted meat get back to the field where the critters are??
Don't forget to explain how the critters feed on what you don't take from a deer.........since you don't process in the field and take your game back to the shed to debone..........how does that wasted meat get back to the field where the critters are??
05-04-2004 | 11:43 AM
#72
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From: Illinois
RE: To gut or not to gut?
Charlie P:
Bravo! Your listing of only significant excerpts without chronological commentary is the way to clarify and substantiate a solid case against. With all the previous rants and raves, everything became muddled and it was not possible to easily determine anything positive regarding Fieldmouse.
However, thanks to your well done effort, it is easy to determine that "Fieldmouse" is actually not a bowhunter, probably never has been or hardly been a bowhunter...or hunter, and is simply a "groupie" that could have survived had he not opened his mouth…too much. Even the most unscrupulous hunter is not as stupid and "out-in-left-field" as indicated by "Fieldmouse's" own words. He is game playing. [:@]
Bravo! Your listing of only significant excerpts without chronological commentary is the way to clarify and substantiate a solid case against. With all the previous rants and raves, everything became muddled and it was not possible to easily determine anything positive regarding Fieldmouse.
However, thanks to your well done effort, it is easy to determine that "Fieldmouse" is actually not a bowhunter, probably never has been or hardly been a bowhunter...or hunter, and is simply a "groupie" that could have survived had he not opened his mouth…too much. Even the most unscrupulous hunter is not as stupid and "out-in-left-field" as indicated by "Fieldmouse's" own words. He is game playing. [:@]
05-04-2004 | 11:47 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
Sorry Charlie there is where your wrong.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I said you shouldn't feel bad because critters need to eat too. A lost deer will never go to waste. I also have said never take a bad shot. I shoot to kill if I plan on flinging my arrow. I have also stated I can count my wounded deer on one hand after 20 years and counting.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I said you shouldn't feel bad because critters need to eat too. A lost deer will never go to waste. I also have said never take a bad shot. I shoot to kill if I plan on flinging my arrow. I have also stated I can count my wounded deer on one hand after 20 years and counting.
05-04-2004 | 11:52 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
Charlie P,
I agree with c903. You did a great job. Maybe now everyone will know what kind of poacher fieldmouse is and we can all just pay no attention to him. If he was smart he would just leave the board and not post anymore but I think we all know that he is not and we will probably continue to see his anti-hunting ammo posted.
I agree with c903. You did a great job. Maybe now everyone will know what kind of poacher fieldmouse is and we can all just pay no attention to him. If he was smart he would just leave the board and not post anymore but I think we all know that he is not and we will probably continue to see his anti-hunting ammo posted.
05-04-2004 | 12:37 PM
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Lets look at some of field mouses qoutes
I can tell you first hand that unborn fawns look great when stuffed and mounted.
They do look great stuffed. It's not illegal but of course Ml could just leave them there.
Rarely do I shoot anything bigger then a bambi. 99% of the time I will always choose bambi. They weigh only 50#s or less. The meat is very tender and not at all gamie
Smaller ones are less gamie. The people I give it to don't like gamie tasting deer
I can't tell you the last time I ate deer as a meal. I give the back straps away
Whats wrong with that? I don't like fish and give all of that away as well
I don't care about large ones I want the huge one. The other 10% of the time, when I hunt late in the season or a spot where I don't feel the big one frequents, I may feel like taking deer. I can say that may be my atitude before I hunt, but most of the time I convince myself I don't feel like dealing with the deer after the kill
And the problem is? Maybe I should kill one every hunt?
I will end this with the most difficult shot of all. The one where the deer is right below you. Before you attempt this shot, you better practice.
Have you tried a straight down shot? You better practice first
There are other shots that are great kill zone rather then heart or lung. In fact my quickest kill was hitting the artery in front of the hips
?
That means I buy a dozen arrows about every other year, six broad heads and every now and then a few field points. After that i have a full quiver of six arrows w/broad heads. By the begining of the third year I'm usually down to two arrows some scraped together broad heads and ready to start all over again.
Do I not buy enough arrows or am I just stuppid for not buying a jig and tackle box for my broad heads
I was so excited that I got the button buck, I shot he sister as well. She wouldn't leave after 10mins of waiting. I haven't looked back since.
As I recall this was in response to my first kill with a bow
You can bow hunt on top of swimming pools, tennis courts, kids tree houses.
I guess this is against your ethics? It sure isn't against the law
No it's all good. I like using corn, clover, mineral block and what ever else help them to become fat. It's cost me some money but the deer I shot a few years back we very sweet since they were corn feed for 3 months before I shot them
Baiting is extremely ethical becuase you supply more food to more deer then you can possibly harvest
Like I said Anti Hunters wet dream.
Lets look at some of field mouses qoutes
I can tell you first hand that unborn fawns look great when stuffed and mounted.
They do look great stuffed. It's not illegal but of course Ml could just leave them there.
Rarely do I shoot anything bigger then a bambi. 99% of the time I will always choose bambi. They weigh only 50#s or less. The meat is very tender and not at all gamie
Smaller ones are less gamie. The people I give it to don't like gamie tasting deer
I can't tell you the last time I ate deer as a meal. I give the back straps away
Whats wrong with that? I don't like fish and give all of that away as well
I don't care about large ones I want the huge one. The other 10% of the time, when I hunt late in the season or a spot where I don't feel the big one frequents, I may feel like taking deer. I can say that may be my atitude before I hunt, but most of the time I convince myself I don't feel like dealing with the deer after the kill
And the problem is? Maybe I should kill one every hunt?
I will end this with the most difficult shot of all. The one where the deer is right below you. Before you attempt this shot, you better practice.
Have you tried a straight down shot? You better practice first
There are other shots that are great kill zone rather then heart or lung. In fact my quickest kill was hitting the artery in front of the hips
?
That means I buy a dozen arrows about every other year, six broad heads and every now and then a few field points. After that i have a full quiver of six arrows w/broad heads. By the begining of the third year I'm usually down to two arrows some scraped together broad heads and ready to start all over again.
Do I not buy enough arrows or am I just stuppid for not buying a jig and tackle box for my broad heads
I was so excited that I got the button buck, I shot he sister as well. She wouldn't leave after 10mins of waiting. I haven't looked back since.
As I recall this was in response to my first kill with a bow
You can bow hunt on top of swimming pools, tennis courts, kids tree houses.
I guess this is against your ethics? It sure isn't against the law
No it's all good. I like using corn, clover, mineral block and what ever else help them to become fat. It's cost me some money but the deer I shot a few years back we very sweet since they were corn feed for 3 months before I shot them
Baiting is extremely ethical becuase you supply more food to more deer then you can possibly harvest
Like I said Anti Hunters wet dream.
Thanks Charlie I actually like these quotes. It shows consistency. I do care about the deer and don't take bad shots. It's not my fault I don't care to eat deer anymore. I'm purely into bow hunting. There isn't anything wrong with that.
05-04-2004 | 12:50 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
It's not my fault I don't care to eat deer anymore. I'm purely into bow hunting. There isn't anything wrong with that.
I didn't shoot a deer last year with a bow. I passed up several does and bucks. I too wanted to get the big one. Do I regret not filling my tag? Hell no. I let my son and nephew fill their tags for the freezer.
If you kill it you have a responsiblility to use it. You don't. As you can see we all know the kind of person you are and the anti's love you for it.
05-04-2004 | 12:52 PM
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
First I will introduce myself and let all know that I am Idahoelkinstructors wife. So the posts that have been made by him here also reflect how I feel. Mouse, I find it interesting that you are eager to defend yourself against others opinions except ours. Second, you are correct in saying that your statements show consistency. Consistency in your stupidity. Third, just because something is legal doesn't make it ethical. There is a difference. If you can't see this then you are dumb and blind. And by the way that you instist on being right instead of listening to all of the people posting telling you that your waste is wrong, I would say that you are also deaf. Get a grip, get real and then come back and talk with some intelligence. Until then I think wihunter402 is right... you should stop posting. You are letting us all know what a hypocritical idiot you are. For that, I thank you.... now I also know not to listen to a word you say. What you haven't realized yet is that you've been caught in your own MOUSE TRAP.
05-04-2004 | 12:57 PM
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RE: To gut or not to gut?
Each to their own. But thats a waste of alot of good meat. Neck meat and shoulder meat make excellent sausage or burger. I smoke the shoulders all the time. A bit of meat tenderizer is all it takes to make these just as good as any other part. Also, the tenderloins are the best eating part to me.
I always gut my deer as soon as its down. The quicker it cools the better the meat. Its worth the 5 minutes.
I always gut my deer as soon as its down. The quicker it cools the better the meat. Its worth the 5 minutes.
