To gut or not to gut?
#61
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
ORIGINAL: Fieldmouse
I will once again point out if you don't gut the deer, and that was the origonal post, you loose tender loins and ribs.
I will once again point out if you don't gut the deer, and that was the origonal post, you loose tender loins and ribs.

I will have to modify that because some people here a swearing by the heart and liver. I guess if you don't eat them your a poacher.
You show me where I have never checked in a deer or advocated not checking in a deer?
I will also point out that in Germany if you don't carry your animal rather than drag it out of the woods you are disrespecting it.
#62
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
Fieldmouse,
Can't you see by the 100% opposition you are getting here that you are in the wrong??
Do you really think it is possible that everyone is wrong and you are the only one who knows what he is talking about??
WAIT A MINUTE!!!
You said that the deboning is done in the shed/garage and not in the field like I suggested right??
Then how the hell are the critters eating what meat you leave wasting on the deer if you take it back to the shed??
I can't wait to hear you try and explain your way out of this one!!!
This should be good.
Can't you see by the 100% opposition you are getting here that you are in the wrong??
Do you really think it is possible that everyone is wrong and you are the only one who knows what he is talking about??
WAIT A MINUTE!!!
You said that the deboning is done in the shed/garage and not in the field like I suggested right??
Then how the hell are the critters eating what meat you leave wasting on the deer if you take it back to the shed??
I can't wait to hear you try and explain your way out of this one!!!
This should be good.
#63
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,862
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Fieldmouse may be under an honest belief that the aft section of a deer is the only part worth using. Others may have passed such misunderstanding onto him when he was still in the learning stage, or he may have been led astray by a person who processes meat, but in a half-ass manner.
Rather than rip him up and keep posting a list of quotes accompanied by meaningless rebuttals, maybe he should be given room to breathe so that he can learn that he may have went astray or been led astray regarding usable meat on a deer.
If he admits he already knew but has chosen to keep a certain part of the deer and throw the rest away, then he is fair game.
Rather than rip him up and keep posting a list of quotes accompanied by meaningless rebuttals, maybe he should be given room to breathe so that he can learn that he may have went astray or been led astray regarding usable meat on a deer.
If he admits he already knew but has chosen to keep a certain part of the deer and throw the rest away, then he is fair game.
#64
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
ORIGINAL: c903
Fieldmouse may be under an honest belief that the aft section of a deer is the only part worth using. Others may have passed such misunderstanding onto him when he was still in the learning stage, or he may have been led astray by a person who processes meat, but in a half-ass manner.
Rather than rip him up and keep posting a list of quotes accompanied by meaningless rebuttals, maybe he should be given room to breathe so that he can learn that he may have went astray or been led astray regarding usable meat on a deer.
If he admits he already knew but has chosen to keep a certain part of the deer and throw the rest away, then he is fair game.
Fieldmouse may be under an honest belief that the aft section of a deer is the only part worth using. Others may have passed such misunderstanding onto him when he was still in the learning stage, or he may have been led astray by a person who processes meat, but in a half-ass manner.
Rather than rip him up and keep posting a list of quotes accompanied by meaningless rebuttals, maybe he should be given room to breathe so that he can learn that he may have went astray or been led astray regarding usable meat on a deer.
If he admits he already knew but has chosen to keep a certain part of the deer and throw the rest away, then he is fair game.
He hasn't shown even the slightest indication of the possibility he may be wrong. He has not only made those statements but backed them up and defended them repeatedly. I don't know who or what originally implanted his misguided attitude but it seems to run very deep because he has chosen to stand his ground even when faced with COMPLETE and spirited opposition.
#65
Sorry guys,
You can bust on me all you want. I have taken the time to butcher up several full deer no problem but the little ones aren't worth the effort on the shoulders. I know some like the neck but I never did enjoy it, but you don't need to gut it first. The post was whether you gut or not.
It's not a lesson on ethics. If that was the case I would argue the states aren't doing their job of managing healthy herds. Lets save that for another post.
If you choose not to gut the deer at most you give up is:
Tender loins
Ribs
Heart
Liver
Have I missed something? I don't think so.
Whether or not you gut a deer (if un-gutted zipper it down the underside)you can take it hang it by the neck. Next cut a ring around the neck and pull down until you can get a rock wraped up inside on the top side of the fur and tie off. Take the other end and attach to the bumper and drive off. Now qtr it and take out the back straps. What have you lost but the above 4 things?
You can bust on me all you want. I have taken the time to butcher up several full deer no problem but the little ones aren't worth the effort on the shoulders. I know some like the neck but I never did enjoy it, but you don't need to gut it first. The post was whether you gut or not.
It's not a lesson on ethics. If that was the case I would argue the states aren't doing their job of managing healthy herds. Lets save that for another post.
If you choose not to gut the deer at most you give up is:
Tender loins
Ribs
Heart
Liver
Have I missed something? I don't think so.
Whether or not you gut a deer (if un-gutted zipper it down the underside)you can take it hang it by the neck. Next cut a ring around the neck and pull down until you can get a rock wraped up inside on the top side of the fur and tie off. Take the other end and attach to the bumper and drive off. Now qtr it and take out the back straps. What have you lost but the above 4 things?
#66
Lets look at some of field mouses qoutes
I can tell you first hand that unborn fawns look great when stuffed and mounted.
Rarely do I shoot anything bigger then a bambi. 99% of the time I will always choose bambi. They weigh only 50#s or less. The meat is very tender and not at all gamie
I can't tell you the last time I ate deer as a meal. I give the back straps away
I don't care about large ones I want the huge one. The other 10% of the time, when I hunt late in the season or a spot where I don't feel the big one frequents, I may feel like taking deer. I can say that may be my atitude before I hunt, but most of the time I convince myself I don't feel like dealing with the deer after the kill
I will end this with the most difficult shot of all. The one where the deer is right below you. Before you attempt this shot, you better practice.
There are other shots that are great kill zone rather then heart or lung. In fact my quickest kill was hitting the artery in front of the hips
That means I buy a dozen arrows about every other year, six broad heads and every now and then a few field points. After that i have a full quiver of six arrows w/broad heads. By the begining of the third year I'm usually down to two arrows some scraped together broad heads and ready to start all over again.
I was so excited that I got the button buck, I shot he sister as well. She wouldn't leave after 10mins of waiting. I haven't looked back since.
You can bow hunt on top of swimming pools, tennis courts, kids tree houses.
No it's all good. I like using corn, clover, mineral block and what ever else help them to become fat. It's cost me some money but the deer I shot a few years back we very sweet since they were corn feed for 3 months before I shot them
Like I said Anti Hunters wet dream.
I can tell you first hand that unborn fawns look great when stuffed and mounted.
Rarely do I shoot anything bigger then a bambi. 99% of the time I will always choose bambi. They weigh only 50#s or less. The meat is very tender and not at all gamie
I can't tell you the last time I ate deer as a meal. I give the back straps away
I don't care about large ones I want the huge one. The other 10% of the time, when I hunt late in the season or a spot where I don't feel the big one frequents, I may feel like taking deer. I can say that may be my atitude before I hunt, but most of the time I convince myself I don't feel like dealing with the deer after the kill
I will end this with the most difficult shot of all. The one where the deer is right below you. Before you attempt this shot, you better practice.
There are other shots that are great kill zone rather then heart or lung. In fact my quickest kill was hitting the artery in front of the hips
That means I buy a dozen arrows about every other year, six broad heads and every now and then a few field points. After that i have a full quiver of six arrows w/broad heads. By the begining of the third year I'm usually down to two arrows some scraped together broad heads and ready to start all over again.
I was so excited that I got the button buck, I shot he sister as well. She wouldn't leave after 10mins of waiting. I haven't looked back since.
You can bow hunt on top of swimming pools, tennis courts, kids tree houses.
No it's all good. I like using corn, clover, mineral block and what ever else help them to become fat. It's cost me some money but the deer I shot a few years back we very sweet since they were corn feed for 3 months before I shot them
Like I said Anti Hunters wet dream.
#69
Mouse,
There is a saying.... " Wise people learn from experience. Super wise people learn from other people's experiences. "
Apparently neither of these apply to you.
Atlasman, we ditto you. If mouse here hadn't defended (with ignorance, i might add) himself so determinedly, then I might be willing to say leave him alone. Some people just refuse to be happy and have to be right. Let mouse wallow in his self-righteous attitude. Hopefully someone, somewhere can set him straight. If no one can then we can hope that somehow his hunting privleges will be revoked somehow and we won't ever have to deal with him on a hunting level. For that matter, Mouse is the kind of person that I wouldn't want to deal with on any level.
There is a saying.... " Wise people learn from experience. Super wise people learn from other people's experiences. "
Apparently neither of these apply to you.
Atlasman, we ditto you. If mouse here hadn't defended (with ignorance, i might add) himself so determinedly, then I might be willing to say leave him alone. Some people just refuse to be happy and have to be right. Let mouse wallow in his self-righteous attitude. Hopefully someone, somewhere can set him straight. If no one can then we can hope that somehow his hunting privleges will be revoked somehow and we won't ever have to deal with him on a hunting level. For that matter, Mouse is the kind of person that I wouldn't want to deal with on any level.
#70
No I forgot to mention how you don't think it a big deal, if you loose a deer after shooting it.
Just about evrything you post violates Rule 4:No topics and/or statements which could be used to reflect poorly on hunting, archery or firearms.
Just about evrything you post violates Rule 4:No topics and/or statements which could be used to reflect poorly on hunting, archery or firearms.


