To gut or not to gut?
#42
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From: NY
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
It;s called reading comprehension, you should try it some time
I don't recall saying anything about boning out the meat. I said he cuts it up (quarters the meat).
Assuming will make an a$$ out of you
It;s called reading comprehension, you should try it some time

I don't recall saying anything about boning out the meat. I said he cuts it up (quarters the meat).
Assuming will make an a$$ out of you
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
I'll bet you everything that I own that he can clean one (and do as good a job as anyone here) and have the skinning shed cleaned up in 15 minutes. Just because you can't clean one that quick doesn't mean other people can't!
I'll bet you everything that I own that he can clean one (and do as good a job as anyone here) and have the skinning shed cleaned up in 15 minutes. Just because you can't clean one that quick doesn't mean other people can't!
Since we were all discussing deboning a deer and you came in with the above I don't think any other assumption applies........I said it can't be done you said it can..........why would say something can be done if you aren't talking about the same thing??
Nice try
#43
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From: NY
ORIGINAL: Fieldmouse
You need to relax on getting personal but then I guess you know everything. As I said his is not a hack job I've witnessed it. It is smooth excellent cutting.
You need to relax on getting personal but then I guess you know everything. As I said his is not a hack job I've witnessed it. It is smooth excellent cutting.
You can say it a million times and I still will never believe that a good clean job can be done especially by one guy in 15 minutes..........it takes that long to skin, cut off legs, remove hair and trim fat.........just no way possible for one guy.
Secondly you have failed to explain why in areas where chronic wasting disease is active why do they just throw the whole deer away?
Third, If you have read some of my past post you would know that I have donated deer to Hunters for the Hungry. After all the person I hunt with is a vegitarian. Besides you do get a tax deduction for it.
To end it, I'm not making fun of you for picking what you feel is worth it but I am pointing out that even you have a stopping point. Unless your picking cheeks, lower legs, eating bone marrow and making buttons and/or tools with the bones, I can say your wasting usable deer parts. Futhermore I'm on record that never is any of the deer wasted because other critters survive on the left overs. There comes a time when it just isn't worth anymore effort.
Don't you even see the pathetic way you keep trying to defend your actions............do you think someone who is doing the right thing would have to do so much explaining??
Keep telling yourself that you are the good guys.............it's not a lie if you belive it
#44
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From: Illinois
Jeez! Give it up! Sounds like a bunch of kids telling each other that his or her daddy is the strongest and baddest. If printed BS were gold I would be running off several copies of this thread
I personally do not care if someone has butchered more deer than the number of buffalo shot by Buffalo Bill, and carries two stag-handled, gold-plated, butcher knives and can bone out an elephant in 15 minutes..... or knows a person whom knows a person whom does and can. I do believe the real point of argument (disagreement) is the intentional and blatant waste of killed game.
I personally do not care if someone has butchered more deer than the number of buffalo shot by Buffalo Bill, and carries two stag-handled, gold-plated, butcher knives and can bone out an elephant in 15 minutes..... or knows a person whom knows a person whom does and can. I do believe the real point of argument (disagreement) is the intentional and blatant waste of killed game.
#45
While I don't want to start a war (like the many that are going on already) on this subject... I think my words are going to anyway, so I will be blunt and I'm sure perceived as even rude. Feildmouse, I will BEG of you to NEVER come to Idaho to hunt. We don't need your bad attitude and gross sense of superior ethics here. We want to protect our animals and other people from your diseased way of thinking. If you can't respect the animal enough to be able to take everything of value then you have no business hunting. If I could I would take the cheeks, the marrow (which by the way adds a sweet flavor to stew), and the bones. I might not have the skills that the American Indians had when it came to making use of every part. But that doesn't mean that it would be bad for anyone to do. By any true ethical standard you are exactly what Atlas says.... Nothing better than a poacher. I will also say that POACHERS ARE NOT HUNTERS... THEY ARE CRIMINALS. If you do come to the western states to hunt and choose to waste meat, because "it is not worth your time" (your quote, not mine) and you are cited, then you can lose your privleges to hunt not only in that state but in any state surrounding that state. Idaho and the states that surround it have an agreement to support each other when it comes to poachers and others who chose not to abide by the law. The sad part of all of this is that even by venting and writing how I feel it will never wake up the sad people who conciously make the choice to disrespect the privleges that we are given. Hunting is a privlege..... not a right.
#47
You know it is interesting that the origonal post gut or not to gut before the attacks got personal (first sign that your loosing the argument). The only thing that was dertemined you loose if you choose not to gut was ribs and loins which some have said they don't waste time on the smaller deer to get the ribs. Some also did't know about the tender loins. So how much do you really waste? Not much. If you want shoulders you can get them with out gutting.
I would also point out that if you were not going to worry about deboning up front you could have the hind qtrs and shoulders off in about the sametime. You would just need a small golf ball size rock, a string and bumper. With these tools you can have the deer skinned to the hoofs in under 5 mins. After that it doesn't take long to pull off the meat.
I would also point out that if you were not going to worry about deboning up front you could have the hind qtrs and shoulders off in about the sametime. You would just need a small golf ball size rock, a string and bumper. With these tools you can have the deer skinned to the hoofs in under 5 mins. After that it doesn't take long to pull off the meat.
#48
I'm with Idahoelkinstructor. You can stay out of Wisconsin as well. And just so you know, I HUNT IN THE CWD AREA IN WISCONSIN. My group shot 7 deer last year and we have kept all of them and are still eating them. CWD does not transfer to humans.
Makes no sense. I say gut. What got personal was your statement that you don't use alot of the meat because it is not worth your time. Like I said earlier you are no different from the poachers. If I know of someone doing what you do here I call 1-800-tip-wdnr and turn them in. Poaching is poaching and that is what you do.
One more thing.
What MANY people. I have been hunting for 27 years and I have never even once talked to someone that said the don't use a deers shoulders. If you know what you are doing you can get alot of tendon free meat from them.
You are nothing but a slob hunter and that makes you nothing better then a poacher. I now know that NC is a state I will no longer keep on my list of states to hunt. Sounds like a bunch of law breaking poachers to me.
Enjoy your next poach, I'm going hunting.
You know it is interesting that the origonal post gut or not to gut before the attacks got personal (first sign that your loosing the argument).
One more thing.
I like many people quit messing with the shoulders.
You are nothing but a slob hunter and that makes you nothing better then a poacher. I now know that NC is a state I will no longer keep on my list of states to hunt. Sounds like a bunch of law breaking poachers to me.
Enjoy your next poach, I'm going hunting.



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