Stealthycat--

The shot I took was not as great an angle. I felt it was close enough to broadside to be lethal. Like I said I passed up a similar shot one month before that was a very poor angle. I guess the decision must be made to wait or to go with it based on past experiences and quartering away is always best. I will attempt to email you the pic of the one I took a couple of weeks ago.

Stealthy, I agree this is a very important question.

Two seasons ago I took a 15 yr. old out for his first year with the bow.I went over possible shot angles with him alot.I would put him in a tree stand (we have a nice range at my buddys house) and place the 3D at different angles and distances.At first he wanted to shoot at the ten ring all the time.That is until we explained things to him about the path the arrow will take and how important proper arrow placement is.

Even though he had passed his hunter education course before I took him hunting he passed a test I gave him.

What's the matter you didn't want to answer the other questiom I asked.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Charlie P - What other questions ? I was wrong in the number of traditional shooters that would take a quartering to shot. The other thread I started addresses the other point you made - what makes a person take a marginal shot ? Certainly equipment does - a rifle hunter would down this deer in a second. Experience is a big factor too, or is it ? Even guys like Zaft, having several P&Y bucks and vast 3D experience, takes iffy shots at deer. So could it be that taking a shot, even a marginal shot, is better than no shot at all ?

I was kidding around Stealthy.

Oh, I thought you just wanted me to make another post that I was wrong to see if I'd do it.

And I did.

And I guess I just did again ?

Okay

I know it's tough for you to admit.lol.I kinda did enjoy seeing you do it again too.

Glad I'm always right,don't want to be in your shoes.That's for sure.<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

I'm typically overly cautious as the moment of the shot approaches. More often than not, I'm telling myself to not shoot. Knowing myself, my gear and the type of deer I see around here...

1. I am confident enough in my shooting skills and gear that I could make that shot a successful one. Based on that alone, I think I would take the shot.

2. Everything I've been taught about shot placement states that this is a low percentage shot. Gear confidence aside, I would not take the shot for ethicals reasons.

3. In reality, that deer would most likely give me buck fever! I've never seen one that big in my woods. I probably would be shaking. Also, like I said above, I typically am extremely cautious about releasing my arrow. I've passed up good shots simply because I felt my head wasn't right. I have to be VERY confident and VERY relaxed to shoot. It's just how I am. The shot would be better if the deer was to step forward more with his front right leg. If the deer stepped out of the woods into that position, I would wait. Especially since he's staring right at me!

-Mike

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I am still not done reading, but I wanted to post since this is sort of a little bit of my topic. I know the anatomy isn't drawn in right, but you have to remember I used stealthy's anatomy post's and just sort of winged it, if I was more well studied on the angle it would have been a better drawing. But to get to the point, I hear comments like I wouldn't take this shot, I would take a shot broadside or quartering away so I know that that animal will die quickly and nope hoping it will die quickly. To this I have just one thing to say, no matter what angle you are shooting an animal at, you are always hoping and never knowing how far away it will run and how fast it will pile up. I don't care if it's quartering, broadside or whatsoever, you aren't gauranteed that that the animal will pile up in 40 yards and leave a very good blood trail. The only reason I state this is because one thread I read a while back, had a post with a look at what a shot that someone had taken on a deer, It looked like a very lethal shot, but after hearing the story, he had to listen for the crow's to eventually find the animal. The question was a little while back, why not take a liver shot? This is my answer, while alot of people sound like they would take the shot behind the shoulder, I would opt for the shot placment where I put the 2 green dot's, in front of the shoulder. Why? The reason why I would take this shot, is because I have no doubt in my mind, that if I was attempting any shot at this angle in the first place, I had better be well practiced, which I would be, for me to be confident that this would be a lethal shot, and it would be in my mind, Again &quot;bowhunter's ETHIC's&quot;. You have to pracitice and be confident in yourself, or you should just be thinking about taking a long walk in the wood's, while armed with a bow. High % shot's Low % shot's or No% shot's who made the ethic's up anyways?
Good shooting.
Dylan

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being a bowhunter regardless of bow types most of us know beyond a resonable doubt this buck is going to turn....you should be at full draw already if your a wheelie folks.....stick bow guys would wait more often then not, that or let him get closer!