So crossbow are legal now......
07-18-2010 | 09:52 AM
#381
Nontypical Buck
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Just this guy thinks if you had a bolt and arrow of same weight with same drag, that the bolt is going to loose KE faster.
07-18-2010 | 09:52 AM
#382
Nontypical Buck
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I've really come to see that BC has mental issues. I've never seen anyone so angry. I bet you are devorced at least once maybe several times.....if not your wife is a saint.
Can you show me were a bow shoots the same velocity, same fletch, same drag, same, weight, same everything you want as axbow? Thats the whole point they don't. Sure if everything was equal to start they may but thats not real life and you know it. They shoot different arrow lenths, weight, etc....
I did say they have the same killing range but that doesnt mean that one isn't easier for a untrained person to do it. That has nothing do do with this agrument. I said same range....a bow will take a person with better training but they still have the same range....keep up.
Can you show me were a bow shoots the same velocity, same fletch, same drag, same, weight, same everything you want as axbow? Thats the whole point they don't. Sure if everything was equal to start they may but thats not real life and you know it. They shoot different arrow lenths, weight, etc....
I did say they have the same killing range but that doesnt mean that one isn't easier for a untrained person to do it. That has nothing do do with this agrument. I said same range....a bow will take a person with better training but they still have the same range....keep up.
07-18-2010 | 09:56 AM
#383
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Honestly, too rediculus to even give a reply. Are you high today?
you're trying to find a way to continue justifying your ridiculousness ....... its failing miserably
I have posted the negatives, I have seen, go back thru the pages and find. Brad, your not worth the effort honestly.
I never said my gun was legal archery gear. Another lie by you.
Brad, are you diabled? Are you unstable. Oh yea, its vertigo. In your head, right?
Dude, you want to use a crossbow, go for it, you don't have to make up these stories to your freinds. Oh yea, what was it a few years ago? You couldn't get penetration, so you bought a tradtech? Justification after justification. Now, its vertigo. I see.
you're trying to find a way to continue justifying your ridiculousness ....... its failing miserably
I have posted the negatives, I have seen, go back thru the pages and find. Brad, your not worth the effort honestly.
I never said my gun was legal archery gear. Another lie by you.
Brad, are you diabled? Are you unstable. Oh yea, its vertigo. In your head, right?
Dude, you want to use a crossbow, go for it, you don't have to make up these stories to your freinds. Oh yea, what was it a few years ago? You couldn't get penetration, so you bought a tradtech? Justification after justification. Now, its vertigo. I see.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/huntersguide/weapon.asp
no, guns are NOT legal archery equipment in Maryland. See the above rules and regulations. Go to Maryland, buy a non-res license and go into archery season with a 30.06 and see what happens.
you're trying to find a way to continue justifying your ridiculousness ....... its failing miserably
I doubt that. You might have 2 depredation permits allowing you to kill crop damaging wildlife, but that doesn't mean the archery season is allowing you to do it nor does it mean your gun is legal archery equipment.
The G&F likely uses dyamite outside of trapping season for nuisance beavers.
Does that mean dynamite is legal means to kill beavers? why no ........ even a kid can see the difference. look it up
BTW what is this arrowgun you speak of? Can you give me a link to it please? I'm very curious, I cannot find it anywhere and I've searched wikipedia, m-w.com, Maryland's web site .......... I simply cannot find it anywhere.
Maybe its where the boofalongmongalong is? Because that word I cannot find either.
ok, I'll cal you out on this one - show me the negative. give me factual negative of what the crossbow did to your season/bag limits or other impacts to Maryland archery season. Go ahead, and believe you me if you can show me something, I'll be against crossbows right there with you.
go on boy
they're managing their herds right now, people like you are left behind while they do it. sorry, that's the truth
LOL you're big on the whole " liar liar, pants on fire" thing today aren't you?
I didn't accuse, I didn't call you a liar, I stated the obviousness of your insistant posts. Nothing more, nothing less.
None the less IF that was what you wanted to show, lets look at the Maryland G&F regulations to see what they say hm?
Oh, looky there .......... no mention of "gun" anywhere, "gun" isn't attached but I do see "bow" attached.
Must be a bow then huh? Maryland says it is
Vertical Bow Regulations
•Vertical bows (compound, recurve, or straight limb) may be used to hunt nutria, woodchucks, and all game birds and game mammals, including migratory game birds, with the exception of beavers, long-tailed weasels, mink, muskrats, and river otters.
•Draw locking devices are legal on all vertical bows except when hunting waterfowl.
•Release aids are permitted.
•For hunting deer and bear, the vertical bow shall have a full draw and pull of not less than 30 pounds.
Crossbow Regulations
•Crossbows may be used to hunt nutria, woodchucks, and all game birds and game mammals with the exception of beavers, long-tailed weasels, mink, muskrats. river otters, and waterfowl.
•The use of telescopic sights is permitted on all crossbows.
•A crossbow used for deer or bear hunting shall have a draw of not less than 75 pounds.
•All crossbows should have a working safety.
•It is unlawful to have a ****ed crossbow in, on or leaning against any vehicle.
Regulations Pertaining to Both Vertical Bows and Crossbows
•Arrows used for deer or bear hunting must have a sharpened broadhead with a metal cutting surface having a minimum width of 7/8 of an inch.
•The vertical bow and crossbow may be used for hunting deer during the Deer Firearms Season and Muzzleloader Season, in accordance with Firearms and Muzzleloader Season regulations.
•Firearms may not be carried while hunting deer during the Bow Season.
•The use of poisoned arrows is not permitted.
no, guns are NOT legal archery equipment in Maryland. See the above rules and regulations. Go to Maryland, buy a non-res license and go into archery season with a 30.06 and see what happens.
you're trying to find a way to continue justifying your ridiculousness ....... its failing miserably
I doubt that. You might have 2 depredation permits allowing you to kill crop damaging wildlife, but that doesn't mean the archery season is allowing you to do it nor does it mean your gun is legal archery equipment.
The G&F likely uses dyamite outside of trapping season for nuisance beavers.
Does that mean dynamite is legal means to kill beavers? why no ........ even a kid can see the difference. look it up
BTW what is this arrowgun you speak of? Can you give me a link to it please? I'm very curious, I cannot find it anywhere and I've searched wikipedia, m-w.com, Maryland's web site .......... I simply cannot find it anywhere.
Maybe its where the boofalongmongalong is? Because that word I cannot find either.
ok, I'll cal you out on this one - show me the negative. give me factual negative of what the crossbow did to your season/bag limits or other impacts to Maryland archery season. Go ahead, and believe you me if you can show me something, I'll be against crossbows right there with you.
go on boy
they're managing their herds right now, people like you are left behind while they do it. sorry, that's the truth
LOL you're big on the whole " liar liar, pants on fire" thing today aren't you?
I didn't accuse, I didn't call you a liar, I stated the obviousness of your insistant posts. Nothing more, nothing less.
None the less IF that was what you wanted to show, lets look at the Maryland G&F regulations to see what they say hm?
Oh, looky there .......... no mention of "gun" anywhere, "gun" isn't attached but I do see "bow" attached.
Must be a bow then huh? Maryland says it is
Vertical Bow Regulations
•Vertical bows (compound, recurve, or straight limb) may be used to hunt nutria, woodchucks, and all game birds and game mammals, including migratory game birds, with the exception of beavers, long-tailed weasels, mink, muskrats, and river otters.
•Draw locking devices are legal on all vertical bows except when hunting waterfowl.
•Release aids are permitted.
•For hunting deer and bear, the vertical bow shall have a full draw and pull of not less than 30 pounds.
Crossbow Regulations
•Crossbows may be used to hunt nutria, woodchucks, and all game birds and game mammals with the exception of beavers, long-tailed weasels, mink, muskrats. river otters, and waterfowl.
•The use of telescopic sights is permitted on all crossbows.
•A crossbow used for deer or bear hunting shall have a draw of not less than 75 pounds.
•All crossbows should have a working safety.
•It is unlawful to have a ****ed crossbow in, on or leaning against any vehicle.
Regulations Pertaining to Both Vertical Bows and Crossbows
•Arrows used for deer or bear hunting must have a sharpened broadhead with a metal cutting surface having a minimum width of 7/8 of an inch.
•The vertical bow and crossbow may be used for hunting deer during the Deer Firearms Season and Muzzleloader Season, in accordance with Firearms and Muzzleloader Season regulations.
•Firearms may not be carried while hunting deer during the Bow Season.
•The use of poisoned arrows is not permitted.
07-18-2010 | 09:59 AM
#384
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I don't know why ya'll are even arguing that, a crossbow arrow and a compound arrow, well even a good old POC shaft all have such different characteristics that its impossible they'd have the same drag, even as they fly, if for nothing else than archer's paradox after leaving the string.
Its clear, your not a long range rifle shooter by that statement.
07-18-2010 | 10:00 AM
#385
Boone & Crockett
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It still blows my mind how those that use Xbows want to be incuded in the archery world! A cross bow is merely a gun that shoots a bolt... How is that archery?
It should be for the disabled only!
It should be for the disabled only!
07-18-2010 | 10:01 AM
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Can you show me were a bow shoots the same velocity, same fletch, same drag, same, weight, same everything you want as axbow? Thats the whole point they don't. Sure if everything was equal to start they may but thats not real life and you know it. They shoot different arrow lenths, weight, etc....
I did say they have the same killing range but that doesnt mean that one isn't easier for a untrained person to do it. That has nothing do do with this agrument. I said same range....a bow will take a person with better training but they still have the same range....keep up.
Last edited by bigcountry; 07-18-2010 at 10:07 AM.
07-18-2010 | 10:38 AM
#388
Nontypical Buck
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A cross bow is merely a gun that shoots a bolt... How is that archery?
It should be for the disabled only!
but of course you DO mind that, because even though you insist a crossbow is a gun, you know it isn't.
bigcountry
You tried to show how a water gun is a gun, you failed.
You tried to make it appear Maryland allows guns in archery season, and I showed that was no correct.
You tried to show a crossbow was a gun, and of course again, I showed you why it wasn't.
I even went so far as to say if you can produce a negative for crossbows in archery season to bowhunting, I'd join you in being an anti-crossbow zealot, to whcih you replied you're going to be busy and won't contribute anymore to this thread.
hmmmmmmmmm
07-18-2010 | 10:43 AM
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No, I set you up to look like your usual fool. Just like the old days.
Is the room spinning?? I bet you need to use an arrowgun this year. Yea right.
I guess next you are going to tell your hunting buddies, you need a handicap parking permit? Figured.
Is the room spinning?? I bet you need to use an arrowgun this year. Yea right.
I guess next you are going to tell your hunting buddies, you need a handicap parking permit? Figured.
sigh ...... they're not guns, that's a proven fact, try to pass a concealed weapons permit with one.
but I don't understand ......... if a crossbow is a gun, you're wanting guns allowed in archery season for handi-cap right? and if a crossbow is a gun, you wouldn't mind the handi-cap using a 30.06 then?
but of course you DO mind that, because even though you insist a crossbow is a gun, you know it isn't.
bigcountry
You tried to show how a water gun is a gun, you failed.
You tried to make it appear Maryland allows guns in archery season, and I showed that was no correct.
You tried to show a crossbow was a gun, and of course again, I showed you why it wasn't.
I even went so far as to say if you can produce a negative for crossbows in archery season to bowhunting, I'd join you in being an anti-crossbow zealot, to whcih you replied you're going to be busy and won't contribute anymore to this thread.
hmmmmmmmmm
but I don't understand ......... if a crossbow is a gun, you're wanting guns allowed in archery season for handi-cap right? and if a crossbow is a gun, you wouldn't mind the handi-cap using a 30.06 then?
but of course you DO mind that, because even though you insist a crossbow is a gun, you know it isn't.
bigcountry
You tried to show how a water gun is a gun, you failed.
You tried to make it appear Maryland allows guns in archery season, and I showed that was no correct.
You tried to show a crossbow was a gun, and of course again, I showed you why it wasn't.
I even went so far as to say if you can produce a negative for crossbows in archery season to bowhunting, I'd join you in being an anti-crossbow zealot, to whcih you replied you're going to be busy and won't contribute anymore to this thread.
hmmmmmmmmm
07-18-2010 | 10:48 AM
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Because I clearly posted I wouldn't be able to contribute as much. But you comprehended it as
"won't contribute anymore to this thread"
Most folks know the difference, but you took "as much" and read it as "won't". Interesting?
Maybe I am being too hard on you. Maybe you suffer from the many mental issues kids do today for learning disabilities. Its no joke. You ought to speak to a doctor maybe. Too high lead levels? Did you consume lead paint chips? Maybe it was the immunization schedule when you was a tot.