What is appealing about Bowtech?
#42
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The mighty mite looks like one cool bow. Whats a mighty mite sell for? In june I will be purchasing my first bow. I want a bow to hunt whitetails and elk with. Right now I am just getting general ideas and prices. Any reccomendations on a bow for a beginner? I know that I will have to go shoot bows to find what fits be and what not but I was just curious if there are any good beginner bows.
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8ball, let me stress I have no experience shooting anything less than 36" axle to axle, but I recommend buying a bow 39" and longer if its your first bow no matter what the brand. Its much easier learning to shoot a longer bow when you are first starting out.
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Let me say I'm not a archer, just thinking about it a bit.
How high a let off do these bow-tec bows have?
Why is it that let off isn't a issue when comparing these bows?
Does high let off equal lower speeds or what?
thanks guys.
How high a let off do these bow-tec bows have?
Why is it that let off isn't a issue when comparing these bows?
Does high let off equal lower speeds or what?
thanks guys.
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About 9 months ago when I was looking for a new bow, I tested a couple bow techs along with about 10 other bows from 5 other companies. None of the bows were tested with any add-on dampening or silencing stuff. My opinion was that the bow techs had unquestionalbly more hand shock than any other bow I tested. They also had a harsher draw cycle. I could see where the speed was coming from - it was the effort I had to put into the draw. This was a big enough negative for me to eliminate them from consideration.
If they come out with brace heights over 8" and less recoil in future models, I will certainly give them another shot when I get my next bow.
If they come out with brace heights over 8" and less recoil in future models, I will certainly give them another shot when I get my next bow.
#47
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Uhhh.... Personally I just like their commercials - "Smooth................"
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#48
OK..here's some facts..
1) BT's are faster across the board than the competition. Draw length to draw length, pound for pound, brace to brace. Yeah they get that speed w/ stout force draw curves..drop your bow weight,get an easier drawing bow and keep the same or have better K.E. For those who don't want to lose any speed by dropping draw length for some silly reason, you can now get as good or better speed, and improve your accuracy to boot. I can drop my draw weight on my MM 10-12 pounds or shoot an arrow that weights 100-125 grains heavier to equal the speed of my HavocTec or Q2. (and guess what? w/ 100 more grains arrow weight, it's quieter than the those bows and hitting alot harder)
2) They are quite shootable and as accurate as the jerk behind them. They are the exception however, not the rule. I've had numerous bows alot slower that were alot harder to it with. The tired old "I'd rather hit w/ a slow arrow than miss w/ a fast one" can be thrown out the window w/ BT. If you have decent form the bows will shoot assuming it's properly fitted and "Synergistic" to your form. If you don't have decent form, you probably shouldn't be flinging arrows at live animals anyway.
3)Bare bow, they do have more shock and recoil. For hunting setups and barring any physical problem, the point is moot. Animal attitude is far more important to curb string jumping than lack of bow noise.You cannot quiet a bow down enough so they won't hear it..sorry but that's the cold hard truth. Had em jump my Saxon Longbow which has half the noise of my Q2, so why would the Q2 be so much better than the MM? And besides, how many guys have killed deer w/ old noiseboxes like Darton Lightnings and Oneidas? I'll take a louder faster bow on a calm relaxed animal anyday over a super-quiet bow shooting at a hyper doe.
4) They are high dollar bows that are built with a corresponding level of construction.. unlike the majority of manufacturers in this day and age. I have bows in same price range or more expensive that have really sloppy tolerances in the limb pockets, axles, finish,machining, you name it. Good value for the dollar(even though IMO, all bows are getting to be way too expensive).
5) Instead of jumping on bandwagons, they go their own way and do their own thing. Who else utilizes a custom stringmaker for their bows? Or better yet, who uses a non-mathews max/SL cam copy? Darton and Bowtech.
6) When people let them know what complaints they had after the first year of production, BT actually listened and eliminated or greatly reduced any complaints. Draws went down to AMO spec. Dip finish was beefed up,Sandtraps were used to help eliminate shock and vibration, WC strings and cables were put on ane virtually eliminate tuning hassles, and serving wear. Heck I've got a bow that claims serving wear is greatly decreased from last year due to a new design.. It's actually worse.
7) They do not lie or advertise half-truths about the technology they use. The owners manual is actually quite useful, and has cam tuning procedures for each model. Unlike most manufacturers whose owner manuals are useless and/or a catalog/advertisement.
8) They are not for everybody, but let's not generalize or base your opinion on what your local shop who does not deal w/ them or your buddy who has a friend who shoots for some company make up your mind. We had that problem over on the Bowsite a whileback w/ a fellow who I consider a "internet" friend...going on hearsay and old wives tales. I emplored him to shoot one first and then base his opinion on fact. While he did not switch to BT, after shooting them he admitted that he did not find the claims his friends had made to be true, or in the least were greatly exagerated.
9) Some folks seem to have a problem w/ progress. They just cannot belive that previously had seemed unobtainable now is. The best scientists in the world used to say the world was flat! Later on in archery history, the naysayers said 300 FPS would never happen w/ the technology we have "today". These folks said the same negative things when HCA came up w/ an accurate 65% letoff, fast design with the Phantom Extreme cam. They also said no-way would we ever see a machined aluminum risers in the $200 range, or that we would see bow weights under 3 Lbs, or Carbon risers. They said there's no way the will ever make a fast one-cam. There's no way bows will get shorter than "X". And there's no way that they will ever be able to make a fast accurate bow.
Personally I hope none of you like Bowtech very much.Don't buy any! That way BT will stay a small company w/ great designs instead of like most of the bigger name, lesser quality and/or copycat designs out there these days.
JeffB
1) BT's are faster across the board than the competition. Draw length to draw length, pound for pound, brace to brace. Yeah they get that speed w/ stout force draw curves..drop your bow weight,get an easier drawing bow and keep the same or have better K.E. For those who don't want to lose any speed by dropping draw length for some silly reason, you can now get as good or better speed, and improve your accuracy to boot. I can drop my draw weight on my MM 10-12 pounds or shoot an arrow that weights 100-125 grains heavier to equal the speed of my HavocTec or Q2. (and guess what? w/ 100 more grains arrow weight, it's quieter than the those bows and hitting alot harder)
2) They are quite shootable and as accurate as the jerk behind them. They are the exception however, not the rule. I've had numerous bows alot slower that were alot harder to it with. The tired old "I'd rather hit w/ a slow arrow than miss w/ a fast one" can be thrown out the window w/ BT. If you have decent form the bows will shoot assuming it's properly fitted and "Synergistic" to your form. If you don't have decent form, you probably shouldn't be flinging arrows at live animals anyway.
3)Bare bow, they do have more shock and recoil. For hunting setups and barring any physical problem, the point is moot. Animal attitude is far more important to curb string jumping than lack of bow noise.You cannot quiet a bow down enough so they won't hear it..sorry but that's the cold hard truth. Had em jump my Saxon Longbow which has half the noise of my Q2, so why would the Q2 be so much better than the MM? And besides, how many guys have killed deer w/ old noiseboxes like Darton Lightnings and Oneidas? I'll take a louder faster bow on a calm relaxed animal anyday over a super-quiet bow shooting at a hyper doe.
4) They are high dollar bows that are built with a corresponding level of construction.. unlike the majority of manufacturers in this day and age. I have bows in same price range or more expensive that have really sloppy tolerances in the limb pockets, axles, finish,machining, you name it. Good value for the dollar(even though IMO, all bows are getting to be way too expensive).
5) Instead of jumping on bandwagons, they go their own way and do their own thing. Who else utilizes a custom stringmaker for their bows? Or better yet, who uses a non-mathews max/SL cam copy? Darton and Bowtech.
6) When people let them know what complaints they had after the first year of production, BT actually listened and eliminated or greatly reduced any complaints. Draws went down to AMO spec. Dip finish was beefed up,Sandtraps were used to help eliminate shock and vibration, WC strings and cables were put on ane virtually eliminate tuning hassles, and serving wear. Heck I've got a bow that claims serving wear is greatly decreased from last year due to a new design.. It's actually worse.
7) They do not lie or advertise half-truths about the technology they use. The owners manual is actually quite useful, and has cam tuning procedures for each model. Unlike most manufacturers whose owner manuals are useless and/or a catalog/advertisement.
8) They are not for everybody, but let's not generalize or base your opinion on what your local shop who does not deal w/ them or your buddy who has a friend who shoots for some company make up your mind. We had that problem over on the Bowsite a whileback w/ a fellow who I consider a "internet" friend...going on hearsay and old wives tales. I emplored him to shoot one first and then base his opinion on fact. While he did not switch to BT, after shooting them he admitted that he did not find the claims his friends had made to be true, or in the least were greatly exagerated.
9) Some folks seem to have a problem w/ progress. They just cannot belive that previously had seemed unobtainable now is. The best scientists in the world used to say the world was flat! Later on in archery history, the naysayers said 300 FPS would never happen w/ the technology we have "today". These folks said the same negative things when HCA came up w/ an accurate 65% letoff, fast design with the Phantom Extreme cam. They also said no-way would we ever see a machined aluminum risers in the $200 range, or that we would see bow weights under 3 Lbs, or Carbon risers. They said there's no way the will ever make a fast one-cam. There's no way bows will get shorter than "X". And there's no way that they will ever be able to make a fast accurate bow.
Personally I hope none of you like Bowtech very much.Don't buy any! That way BT will stay a small company w/ great designs instead of like most of the bigger name, lesser quality and/or copycat designs out there these days.
JeffB

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Wow Jeff, nobody is putting Bowtech down. A question was asked about the bows they make and a lot of good information came out of it. Without asking questions and getting opinions how can anyone learn?
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Ditto what Mat and others said about BT.
Just want to give my two cents on this topic. I was in the market for a bow. This will be my first bow. I was looking into other brand as well, but narrowed down to Mathews. Then I check into BT. Well, I went with the shortest of all their line, the Tech29. I shot this bow, and it was very quiet and smooth. As a matter of fact, it was quieter than the SQ2. Many people said that I shouldn't buy a short bow as a starter. I went with my instinct, and this bow is accurate! I shot the same arrow that I used on a borrowed bow (HCA Excalibur) and it is MORE accurate. Try it and you might like the Bowtech!
Just want to give my two cents on this topic. I was in the market for a bow. This will be my first bow. I was looking into other brand as well, but narrowed down to Mathews. Then I check into BT. Well, I went with the shortest of all their line, the Tech29. I shot this bow, and it was very quiet and smooth. As a matter of fact, it was quieter than the SQ2. Many people said that I shouldn't buy a short bow as a starter. I went with my instinct, and this bow is accurate! I shot the same arrow that I used on a borrowed bow (HCA Excalibur) and it is MORE accurate. Try it and you might like the Bowtech!


