I know the rules. I don' t much care what they do. I never measure them anyway except maybe with a scales.

1. No, I do not put emphasis on the percentage of letoff when buying a bow.

2. It is their club and the members make the rules...sounds like a democratic system since everyone votes on them. Personally, I think there are many, many other variables both related and unrelated to equipment which play a much bigger role in harvesting a world class animal and they should be given more emphasis.

As for comparing a high percentage of letoff compound to a crossbow.....

....if the " weapon" locks the string at full draw and/or has a stock then it is a crossbow. If it doesn' t have one or both then it is a compound. Simple enough.

If you don' t care about P&Y then why do so many of you have such negative comments about their organization? If you don' t care about their records system then why come on here and bash it ?
The majority of people I have heard bashing P&Y on here over the last few months have had eqipment that doesn' t meet P&Y requirements. If your stuff doesn' t meet their requirements don' t bash them for it !!
I have always had P&Y compatable equipment and have 1 whitetail in the books . I have never liked a high let off bow until my new one . I prefer my new bow on 80 % .........now when hunting season roles around I have to make a decision to keep it on 80 % or drop it to 65% and live with the choice ! You should too !!

I personally don' t think hunting is any easier with a high let off but rules are rules !

your comparing an 80% letoff compound to a xbow? I think that' s rediculus! a compound and xbow are not even in the same league.

yea, but there are times it makes no difference. like last season when I had an 8 point walk beneath my stand and I drawed on him as he was fixin to step out in a small openin at 15yds. he stopped and turned around, came back toward me all the time in brush to thick to get a shot. finally, he turned broadside and was about to step out in an old tram road, but stopped just short behind a holly. I held till my muscels gave out, and had to let down. he spooked and that' s the end of that story. I was shootin my darton which is 80% letoff. so in some cases, it don' t matter whether it' s 65% or 80%, you just have to draw at the right time.

spoiled? I don' t call myself spoiled Cougar, I call myself fortunate that bow manufactures made a bow that I could hold back confortably without puttin such a strain on my back. a lot of bowhunters have back or shoulder problems, that won' t allow them to hold a 65% bow.
and as far as not bein able to use lighted sights, what about the people that can' t see as good as others.
what P&Y is sayin IMO, is you can qualify to enter a buck in our book, as long as your in good enough health, for the rest of you- to bad!

futhermore, if ya' ll beleive in P&Y ' s rules so strongly, then why not just go back to 50% letoff, or a stickbow (like you said)? then ya' ll could really brag about how much more of a bowhunter ya' ll are than the rest of us.

The letoff to me isn' t much different. In fact, when I used to shoot a 50 and then a 65% letoff I missed and lost fewer deer. You do what you got to do. IF you can' t hold it you crank down the poundage. If that doesn' t work you buy a lower poundage. Practice makes perfect... well almost.[]

I respect the club' s perogative to set its own limits. The one question that came up in this discussion that is interesting to me is the one about bows with adjustable let-off. What would the club do? How could the hunter prove where the adjustment was set at the time of the kill? I guess it' s just a rhetorical question, because my two current bows have 60 and 65% letoff, and I haven' t seen too many bucks that would qualify anyway.

I agree about the bows with adj. let-offs--I know alot of people and they are not all honest--isn' t that what they are doing is just leaving it up to everyone to be honest?YEA THAT' LL WORK[>:][]

I don' t see any way they could prove you had your bow set on 65%, if your bow is adjustable 65%-80%. same thing with lighted sights. all they have to do is change sights, or pins. I wonder how many P&Y bucks are really taken P&Y legal.

P&Y does not allow animals to be entered in their book that were shot behind game-proof fences. It' s a violation of their Rules of Fair Chase.

If you want to shoot an animal on a " canned hunt" and enter it in some " book" , might I suggest SCI or BuckMasters.

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bogobble,

You bring up a good point. Like most other things in life, there' s something called the " honor system" . Sure, I suppose someone could lie on the Fair Chase Afidavit and there' s no way the club would ever know. They can' t investigate every entry, but they do crawl through the higher scoring ones very well.

Have there been animals entered that were taken in noncompliance? Absolutely, and when P&Y finds out they remove not only that particular entry, but often every other entry by that hunter.

to me it doesn' t matter ,my old bow is 65% letoff , my new one is not it' s 75% i hunt to enjoy the great outdoors and for the meat you can' t eat antlers no matter how big they are , and to me a trophy is any game take by rules of fair chase be it a doe or a spike , not that it wouldn' t be nice to take a giant racked buck, all that and beside the fact that my shoulders are bad and i' ll be lucky if in a few years i can still shoot a bow so the letoff doesn' t matter to me!