all i know is what we have been doing has worked an i plan on doing it in the future bc statics show on our farm that it has worked an we have put up some big numbers.... im pleased with it. maybe some of u others shud give it a shot bc i belive that is does work

There is my point. Before you moved there, they may have been shooting every buck they could, thus leaving little to none to grow old. You guys come along and now only shoot "some" of the available bucks. Therefore you are going to have more big ones. But until you know what was shot before, you can't attribute big bucks to shooting the "bad" gened ones. Who knows, you could find out that if you let those go too, you many have even more big bucks.

Wouldn't that be the obvious outcome?

hmmmmm like iv said what we are doing is working pretty well i mean 150 class bucks for our area is pretty dang big i think.. but ur right before they probably did do that becasue that wud have been along time ago.. lol an most people back then wud of been meat hunters. but still our managment program that we are doing now is working.. so y not keep doing it

y not keep doing what we are doing by taking out the bucks that we belive dont have the potencial to become a mature pope an young buck.. i mean everdentually what we are doing is working bc every season we are taking bigger an bigger bucks

I've tried to see where GMMAT was coming from and it didn't make sense until I read this on another thread.

GMMAT's statement; "Funny thing is....I learn in odd ways. I'll takea position I don't even buy into to play devil's advocate.....and learn probably more from that than I would buying in to all the guys I look up to's mantras ALL the time. "

Gmmat you and rybohunter are arguing the fact that any deer can become a big racked deer. Yes that is true....ok we get that, we are not arguing that so get it through your stuborned heads!! We are arguing that we are trying to elevate that chances of getting faster growing racks or bigger racks into our porperties. Will you atleast agree that a 1.5 year old 100 inch deer has a better chance of being bigger at 3.5 years old than a 1.5 year old spike??? If not than you are arguing against genetics intirely.

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Dispersal, which isthe manner in which most bucks relocate toa new core area at 1.5 years, plays a huge factor in herd genetics and is nature's method of balancing andenhancing genetics and preventing in-breeding. The large majority of 1.5 y/o bucks won't be on the property next season anyway, so "culling" them will have virtually no effect on herd genetics.

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I've tried to see where GMMAT was coming from and it didn't make sense until I read this on another thread.

GMMAT's statement; "Funny thing is....I learn in odd ways. I'll takea position I don't even buy into to play devil's advocate.....and learn probably more from that than I would buying in to all the guys I look up to's mantras ALL the time. "

Gmmat you and rybohunter are arguing the fact that any deer can become a big racked deer. Yes that is true....ok we get that, we are not arguing that so get it through your stuborned heads!! We are arguing that we are trying to elevate that chances of getting faster growing racks or bigger racks into
our porperties. Will you atleast agree that a 1.5 year old 100 inch deer has a better chance of being bigger at 3.5 years old than a 1.5 year old spike??? If not than you are arguing against genetics intirely.



Thank u.. at least u get were im coming from

thank u at least u get were i am coming from.. srry my last post i messed up