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The Kill
05-05-2008 | 12:56 PM
#132
Nontypical Buck
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From: Southern MD
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.
Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?
05-05-2008 | 01:10 PM
#133
Nontypical Buck
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From: West Tennessee
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
Why?
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.
Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?
This isn't an inflammatory question, it's a sincere one. Are you justlooking to debate this issue, or do you really believe that the killing of a family pet because it has to be put downand killing a deer during bowseason fall into the same category? To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.
05-05-2008 | 01:17 PM
#134
Dominant Buck
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RE: The Kill
To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.
05-05-2008 | 01:28 PM
#135
Nontypical Buck
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From: West Tennessee
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Fine....we'll do it your way.....but I don't think I'd wanna be associated with any of them that ENJOY that type killing, either.
To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.
05-05-2008 | 01:29 PM
#136
Boone & Crockett
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From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Fine....we'll do it your way.....but I don't think I'd wanna be associated with any of them that ENJOY that type killing, either.
To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.
05-05-2008 | 01:34 PM
#137
Nontypical Buck
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From: Southern MD
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Bruce,
This isn't an inflammatory question, it's a sincere one. Are you justlooking to debate this issue, or do you really believe that the killing of a family pet because it has to be put downand killing a deer during bowseason fall into the same category? To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
Why?
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.
Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?
This isn't an inflammatory question, it's a sincere one. Are you justlooking to debate this issue, or do you really believe that the killing of a family pet because it has to be put downand killing a deer during bowseason fall into the same category? To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.
Some folks were saying why would we hunt if we didn't enjoy the kill. I was trying to point out that you don't need to enjoy killing to enjoy hunting and, ultimately, killing something. I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.
We can all enjoy the hunt and eating the animals we hunt but some of us don't necessarily get that rush when we kill something. Doesn't mean we should hunt with paintballs
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05-05-2008 | 01:43 PM
#138
Dominant Buck
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RE: The Kill
I would not have any bad feelings about putting a bullet in a child molersters head, does that make me bad?
Nobody said anythig about feeling bad (afterwards). Would you "enjoy" it whie you were doing it?
I don't need to know the answer to that.
05-05-2008 | 01:44 PM
#139
Nontypical Buck
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From: West Tennessee
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
I believe that necessary killings fall into the same basic category which is why I had other references in my post and not just the pet reference. To put a pet out of any particular misery it may be in(old age, crippled, etc.)it is necessary to kill it. To eat my chickens it is necessary to kill them. To eat a deer it is necessary to kill it. Did I enjoy killing my pet? NO. Did I enjoy killing my chickens? No. Did I enjoy enjoy killing the deer? No. When killing the deer and chickens I also didn't suffer like I did when I have had to kill a pet BUT I didn't necessarily enjoy it. When I killed the fox I didn't enjoy that either but it was him or my chickens so it was a necessary killing. Killing varmints is necessary. Do I enjoy it? No.
Some folks were saying why would we hunt if we didn't enjoy the kill. I was trying to point out that you don't need to enjoy killing to enjoy hunting and, ultimately, killing something. I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.
We can all enjoy the hunt and eating the animals we hunt but some of us don't necessarily get that rush when we kill something. Doesn't mean we should hunt with paintballs.
I believe that necessary killings fall into the same basic category which is why I had other references in my post and not just the pet reference. To put a pet out of any particular misery it may be in(old age, crippled, etc.)it is necessary to kill it. To eat my chickens it is necessary to kill them. To eat a deer it is necessary to kill it. Did I enjoy killing my pet? NO. Did I enjoy killing my chickens? No. Did I enjoy enjoy killing the deer? No. When killing the deer and chickens I also didn't suffer like I did when I have had to kill a pet BUT I didn't necessarily enjoy it. When I killed the fox I didn't enjoy that either but it was him or my chickens so it was a necessary killing. Killing varmints is necessary. Do I enjoy it? No.
Some folks were saying why would we hunt if we didn't enjoy the kill. I was trying to point out that you don't need to enjoy killing to enjoy hunting and, ultimately, killing something. I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.
We can all enjoy the hunt and eating the animals we hunt but some of us don't necessarily get that rush when we kill something. Doesn't mean we should hunt with paintballs
.
05-05-2008 | 01:51 PM
#140
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Heaven is my home, temporarily residing in WNY :)
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.
I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.