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Charlie P 04-10-2008 02:43 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
I'd like to hear from the vets on this philosophy, though.
Oh sorry.;)

Germ 04-10-2008 02:44 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
ORIGINAL: GMMAT

IMO......it depends on the birds in your area.....and whether or not the pecking order has been established or not (yet). Again....IMO......being aggressive with your calling (if you plan to remain stationary) will sometimes limit who (and how many)comes looking. And I don't mean that to say the most aggressive birds will be enticed, at all.

I'd like to hear from the vets on this philosophy, though. Hence my question in the thread header and my plea for others to expound.
Well the guy who called for me was a 30 year turkey vet, he hunts them all over. Ohio, Ky, IN, and MI. He called the exact same way.
it depends on the birds in your area
Jeff the turkeys have no idea if I have a gun or bow in the blind, the effective range of a shot gun is about 40 yds. My bow is 40 yds.

Charlie P 04-10-2008 02:45 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
Jeff the turkeys have no idea if I have a gun or bow in the blind,
The birds in your area migh not, but in some places they have X=ray vision.[8D]

MN/Kyle 04-10-2008 02:47 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
GMMAT, why did you want to know my decoy set up?

So if it depends on pecking order, you're calling, do you get less agressive and more aggressive throughout the season? It sounds to me, like you're going ALL passive. If it depends on the birds, why not play the birds, and get aggressive when needed? Correct me if I'm wrong.

GMMAT 04-10-2008 02:48 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
Define "vet." :eek:

And does your definition of "vet" limit one to bowhunting only.

If so, why?
I defined what I was looking for in the thread header, Dan. I meant for this entire thread to revolve around bowhunting turkeys.....because that's the way I hunt them.

Jeff the turkeys have no idea if I have a gun or bow in the blind, the effective range of a shot gun is about 40 yds. My bow is 40 yds.
I agree with your assessment about the turkeys not knowing what weapon is in the blind. I don't get where you're headed, though. And....I think you need to add about 20yds to the gun range.;)

Washington Hunter 04-10-2008 02:50 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Define "vet." :eek:

And does your definition of "vet" limit one to bowhunting only.

If so, why?
I defined what I was looking for in the thread header, Dan. I meant for this entire thread to revolve around bowhunting turkeys.....because that's the way I hunt them.
How is it any different though?

You've now got several people not seeming to understand what the big difference is.

What is it?

Germ 04-10-2008 02:51 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
ORIGINAL: Charlie P

Jeff the turkeys have no idea if I have a gun or bow in the blind,
The birds in your area migh not, but in some places they have X=ray vision.[8D]
Charlie I am not trying to be a smart arse, LOL Shocking I know. If I understand the question WH ask.

Once setup what are the different tatics in calling Turkey's with a gun, or with a bow.
To me with both you want to get the bird inside 40 yds, I'm I wrong? I am complete rookie with turkey's. Now with a gun one is more mobile, but you still have to call the bird within 40 yds.

BTW I am sure there are bowhunters who are just as mobile, I am not one of them:D So with a gun I may "setup" differnet, but I am calling the same.

Like Jeff said it depands more on the birds in your area.

Charlie P 04-10-2008 02:53 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
It's pretty well accepted that bowhunting v. gunhunting tactics are different, Charlie. Like I said....I don't know of too many "run and gun" (not to be taken figureatively) bowhunters who go after birds.
So take Run and gun out of the equation and your hunting basically the same way. There are many gun hunters that won't run and gun.

GMMAT 04-10-2008 02:54 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
GMMAT, why did you want to know my decoy set up?
Because you said you employed run and gun tactics.....and I know how long it takes me to get set up. That's all.

So if it depends on pecking order, you're calling, do you get less agressive and more aggressive throughout the season? It sounds to me, like you're going ALL passive. If it depends on the birds, why not play the birds, and get aggressive when needed? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm asking WHY I would need to get more aggressive. I'm looking to learn something. How do you "play" the birds? WHAT could he be doing to make you become more aggressive?

How is it any different though?

You've now got several people not seeming to understand what the big difference is.

What is it?
Dan....You're under the impression....or making the assumption that there's no difference in approach to gun v. bow hunting turkeys. I'm not under that impression. Maybe just a difference of opinion.

Charlie P 04-10-2008 02:55 PM
RE: Passive or aggressive philosophy?
 
Once setup what are the different tatics in calling Turkey's with a gun, or with a bow.
To me with both you want to get the bird inside 40 yds, I'm I wrong? I am complete rookie with turkey's. Now with a gun one is more mobile, but you still have to call the bird within 40 yds.
There the same. I'm agreeing with you.


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