Let's at least get the facts straight. I had at least 3 of those tied on before I thought enough to ask what people thought the problem was.

And you're reinforcing what I've been saying all along. If BCY is the only thing that'll hold.....then it might be a good idea to let dealers know this.

And if your D-loop spinning don't bother you......more power to ya. I shoot my bow a LOT (every day), though....and I can't stand it. I'm also shooting pretty light arrows (327gr). Did this add toMY issue? Don't know.

I can tell you....if it was happening to your new setup.....you'd have been upset.

Haven't read all of the replies, but this seems logical enough to me. Can't really understand why you would have a loop spinning on a new string unless both ends were tied off on the same side of the string (I assume you didn't). My loop is now twisted badly and my peep won't stay aligned but that's because my string is shot. On a brand new bow with a new string, don't see why it would happen, and yes a rotating loop is extremely annoying. Are there other 82nd owners out there with this same issue?

Did you ever try... or is there a possible way to tie the serving in with your d-loop? Make any since? i have my nocking point serving and then another serving just above my d-loop knot.If you could tie them inwith the d-loopknoti wonder if it wouldve solve the problem.I know your problem is hopefully solved now, but just curious if you would have if it would have changed anything.

People, people, like was reiterated by others, mobow, (thank you) had an issue on a Hoyt, I've seen it on others as well including a Hoyt and a Mathews and I did have it on an 82nd as well as my General and that's why I ordered BCY from redhdcharm with the link I provided.

Perhaps the stop is harder on loops HOWEVER, it's not an 82nd issue....geesh. Jeff offers up a suggestion, a good one at that and people rant and rave.

AS per others, the camo loop material is died differently than colored ones per redhdcharm when I made mention I cannot get the camo one tight enough to prevent spining and obviously others are seeing the same thing.

Well my take on this is that (obviously) there HAS to be something causing the problem. I figure it's either one of two options....1. Poor installation or 2. serving issue (type of serving used).

Let's look at #1. Is it possible Jeff got 5 incompetent Pro Shop owners/ employees to install his string loop only to have him do is successfully himself on his first try? Possible, but highly improbable so #1 I feel is out of the question. I find it hard to believe that many Pro Shop owners/employees got it wrong.

Now #2. Could it be the serving that's on the 82nd is causing issues with the loop cinching down? I think this is probably the culprit. I say this because a lot of people (including myself) use different types of loop material day in and day out without a problem. I happen to like the braided camo loop material sold by Allen. I think it's grade "A" stuff. It's thick and holds it's shape perfect, it's sturdy and it cinches down and sticks to the string like a leach between your toes!

I believe someone (maybe Jeff) has said the the new BowTech uses a different material for their serving on the 82nd, is this true? If it's slicker that other "normal" serving material then the culprit seems pretty exposed.

Would BCY work well on my bow? Probably, but it's obviously not the only material that works well so it seems (to me at least) to be the serving that is the issue and not the loop material or installation.....dosen't it?

Here is what I use.....Allen loop materials, works GREAT!

May I get an answer from page 3 please? Honest question.

Thanks.

Tony you don't have a post on page 3....lol[8D]

This one Tony from page 4?

Exactly. After the shot, the loop will spin around the string so in the next shot it will not align the peep at full draw.

Jeff thx for the heads up, I am putting a loop on my bow for the first time. I ordered some BCY loop stuff.

Us Northen guys let you southern guys figure it out, and then we do it.

BTW I have a list of things for you to try, and i found a LH whammey on ebay[&:]

lol page 4
I am still a bit shakin up from the favre announcement but it was expected. *My excuse anyways*

Thanks Rob