D-Loop Advice for 82nd Airborne owners
#71
Mine is long for my bt release and anchors to hit properly.
I have been known to adjust my draw length and/or loop to get whatever release I am using at the time to fit correctly.
I have had them so short you couldn't hardly get a caliper release in it but my short & sweet would slip right in.
I have been known to adjust my draw length and/or loop to get whatever release I am using at the time to fit correctly.
I have had them so short you couldn't hardly get a caliper release in it but my short & sweet would slip right in.
#72
ORIGINAL: badger109
doesnt that defeat the idea of a string loop? (that is eliminating nock pinch)
ORIGINAL: TFOX
My question is are you setting the loop up so that it is straight back before you start drawing or are you trying to turn the string with the loop to get the peep to align?
I set mine up so that my loop is straight and the peep is almost straight and my loop will twist if I try to by hand but since everything is pulling in a straight line,I don't have issues with it turning on me.I also don't tie a loop over and under,mine is below the nock.
BUT,I agree,I have used the bcy and it does not move once tied.
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My question is are you setting the loop up so that it is straight back before you start drawing or are you trying to turn the string with the loop to get the peep to align?
I set mine up so that my loop is straight and the peep is almost straight and my loop will twist if I try to by hand but since everything is pulling in a straight line,I don't have issues with it turning on me.I also don't tie a loop over and under,mine is below the nock.
BUT,I agree,I have used the bcy and it does not move once tied.
Like this
doesnt that defeat the idea of a string loop? (that is eliminating nock pinch)
#74
Have you tried re-serving the string? If this did not help, you could eliminate slippery serving material as a cause.

#75
First off, I recognize that I'm new to this forum. Enough said on that.
Second, I don't own an 82nd Airborne, but I do own a Marquis and I think it's similar enough to apply here, because
Third, I had this same problem with the Marquis --- my loop would "dance" around the string every couple of shots. Not always, but enough to be extremely aggrivating.
I solved the problem by putting a dab of BARGE cement on the knots and made sure it got down to the string by using a toothpick to force it down in there. I like BARGE because it's "semi permanent" and doubt that it will weaken the material.
Fourth, it's my opinion (after some thoughtful study) that this problem, and some others, are brought about by the Bowtech "Short Stop" and it's very close proximity to the nocking point. High amount of energy brought to a crashing halt = transmission of that energy to anything available, such as immediately within the string, beginning at the point of abrupt stop and then working outward from there. The first add-on that it's going to encounter is the D-loop and/or nock point, and the energy will go where it wants to go and exploit anything it can in order to dissipate itself. I figure a D-loop is no different than a string silencer, in that regard - and happens to be the closest one to the point of impact. So it vibrates and dances.
Fifth, I "get" the concept of the SS's location, from a pure physics standpoint it makes sense - but whether or not all of the downside considerations were weighed before putting the product to market - who knows. As far as I know or understand, this is a "brand new" idea for Bowtech, and I'll allow that there's a learning process involved that has to extend beyond the factory and a few test markets, that the more exposure their products get the more different, uncontrolled experiences that will be encountered and there will be complaints and criticisms. That's just a part of manufacturing and product development, and I "get" that, too.
I guess what will remain to be seen is whether or not Bowtech is listening, hearing and understanding - and will take appropriate steps such as releasing a series of "white papers" to their regional reps and dealers. I think there are a lot of similar concerns which are arising as more and more of their new product line gets in the hands of their customers. In my opinion, they should have a forum on their website where concerns can be raised, and solutions shared.
Second, I don't own an 82nd Airborne, but I do own a Marquis and I think it's similar enough to apply here, because
Third, I had this same problem with the Marquis --- my loop would "dance" around the string every couple of shots. Not always, but enough to be extremely aggrivating.
I solved the problem by putting a dab of BARGE cement on the knots and made sure it got down to the string by using a toothpick to force it down in there. I like BARGE because it's "semi permanent" and doubt that it will weaken the material.
Fourth, it's my opinion (after some thoughtful study) that this problem, and some others, are brought about by the Bowtech "Short Stop" and it's very close proximity to the nocking point. High amount of energy brought to a crashing halt = transmission of that energy to anything available, such as immediately within the string, beginning at the point of abrupt stop and then working outward from there. The first add-on that it's going to encounter is the D-loop and/or nock point, and the energy will go where it wants to go and exploit anything it can in order to dissipate itself. I figure a D-loop is no different than a string silencer, in that regard - and happens to be the closest one to the point of impact. So it vibrates and dances.
Fifth, I "get" the concept of the SS's location, from a pure physics standpoint it makes sense - but whether or not all of the downside considerations were weighed before putting the product to market - who knows. As far as I know or understand, this is a "brand new" idea for Bowtech, and I'll allow that there's a learning process involved that has to extend beyond the factory and a few test markets, that the more exposure their products get the more different, uncontrolled experiences that will be encountered and there will be complaints and criticisms. That's just a part of manufacturing and product development, and I "get" that, too.
I guess what will remain to be seen is whether or not Bowtech is listening, hearing and understanding - and will take appropriate steps such as releasing a series of "white papers" to their regional reps and dealers. I think there are a lot of similar concerns which are arising as more and more of their new product line gets in the hands of their customers. In my opinion, they should have a forum on their website where concerns can be raised, and solutions shared.




