I have read the past 5-10 years worth of issues from all the major mags (and not so major), N. A. Whitetail, Deer & Deer hunting, Bowhunter, Outdoor Life, North American Hunter, Field and Stream, FFG, Petersons Hunting, etc....

No offence to those who read them, but have you all noticed most regurgitate the same info every year and on a seasonal basis in regard to hunting strategies and specifically deer behavior? It is good for beginners but after a while you just have to start using your own head. For instance, the noted "shift" in mature bucks core areas over the course of a year. It doesn't take a brain surgen to realise a mature buck will move according to food, weather, etc. Everything is a creature of its environment. Identify that and you are well on your way to outsmarting whatever you are after.

Again, what were they??.........were they listed??


They tagged them all and followed them each under the same conditions and then compared the two?? vs control groups of the same age structures with no outside interference?


Absolutely............data is useless otherwise. I can show you countless "studies" that if just read on the surface would have you believe something that isn't true. The key is understanding and validating the data........otherwise it's just a nice story.

Just asking.........I haven't read it yet. It may be a fine study, I hope there is much more info then what you have said here though.

Atlas here isa article/test that is similar.

http://www.qdma.com/pdf/MissingBucks.pdf

have at it

Thanks...........I'll check it out.

Without listing each region.....they used 4-5 different US regions and conducted the same experiment.

Yes

I didn't feel the need to take the time to recite their whole study. But...what I told you is the results of said. It's not my thoery....nor anything I came up with. I just thought it was interesting.

Why are you convinced of this? I would think the complete opposite to be true. The more pressure, the smaller a mature bucks core area would be. They have people patterned and know which small peice they are safe in.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I am gonna read it tonight............but you are saying they compared the same deer in 5 different settings vs deer they didn't interfere with in the same settings.........and then contrasted the settings vs each other??

That would be cool..........not sure how they could accomplish this but I can't wait to read it.

They go further away to where we are not.Might be the way SLP is made up. Small seperate wood lots.
Just my theory a mature pressured buck will do must of his breeding at night when he's pressured, he runs back to his safe zone when the pressure is on. This zone is further away than must think IMO. Hell I might be wrong, I have caught a couple trying to get back to the zone. Stayed out to late. I have also seen them crossing the highway about5 miles from where i hunt at 5:00 AM in the morning.

Dan in MI when I see a mature buck alone during the rut he has a frantic pace. Like a kid who got caught out to late. In 2003 and 2004 I had the same buck run by me twice. He was by himself and was moving. I watch him cross the river and away he went.

A friend hunts a place with very little pressure. The mature bucks just come from everywhere once the pressure hits around him.

I think they have a safe zone, andonce the pressure hits them,is where they go.

Just my thoughts but its happened in our little patches of woods (160 acres) we have where I see a nice mature buck and don't see that same particular buck for a week or so and later talk to another bow hunter who's got him on camera the whole week 1/2 a mile away. I believe it happens in smaller patches of woods like the size of woods I hunt allot more compared to a huge piece of woods. There more secure in a big woods compared to these small patches of woods where its easier to spook them when hunting.

Wow...let me decipher this....lol....

Not the "same" deer. The same "age groups". It may have been more or lessthan 5.....I just guessed.

OK....actually it was the following regions:

South texas
Minnesota
Illinois

It's a good read. I'm going to read it again. I hope I haven't misrepresented anything.