Elite GTO, should NOT be overlooked...
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#71
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver
I just preach the gospel, brother - I can't change it.
Counsler you will have to do better than thatORIGINAL: quiksilver
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ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I can assure you most all commodities have gone upunder every modern-day US President's watch.
I know. But that doesn't make my statement wrong, now does it? All I said was that things got more expensive over the past 8 yrs - I'd tend to think that it would be more of a credibility hit to anyone who disagreed, dontcha think? ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I can assure you most all commodities have gone upunder every modern-day US President's watch.
I just preach the gospel, brother - I can't change it.
#72
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I know. But that doesn't make my statement wrong, now does it?
Not one bit. But you're implying "causation" when it's really "correllation".I know. But that doesn't make my statement wrong, now does it?
OK...I relent. It was a factual error in judgement (I'll compromise).
#73
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Personally, I think they're all ripoff artists. They do nothing but rape the consumer at every turn in the road... They monopolize the market through protected dealerships, overpriced parts, overpriced products and ruthlessly false advertising.
Yeah, and the newest scam is shooting 3 gpp arrow weight.....Personally, I think they're all ripoff artists. They do nothing but rape the consumer at every turn in the road... They monopolize the market through protected dealerships, overpriced parts, overpriced products and ruthlessly false advertising.
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Bows didn't cost $800 (bare) 10-15 years ago. Granted, costs have gone up, but not by that much... They're still using the same components
True, and what did a loaf of bread cost 10-15 years ago? I BET it wasn't $2.... Bows didn't cost $800 (bare) 10-15 years ago. Granted, costs have gone up, but not by that much... They're still using the same components
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Maybe I just have more sympathy for the working class...
Yeah, and maybe they live the way they do because they CHOOSE to...not because they HAVE to. I knowseveral folks who make a darn good living and to look at their trailer/shed they live in....You would swear they are the definition of poverty.Maybe I just have more sympathy for the working class...
#74
Quick,little test for you.Go buy the raw materials for a hoyt and then the same for a Mathews.(just an example)
You will find the raw materials twice as high aand then when you start maching them,you will find production cost also take twice as long.
But the other cost the same as them,Blaming Hoyt is petty at best.
AND,Hoyt limbs are not gordan glass.Atleast not the laminated ones.Neither are Barnsdale.
Bush to blame
That is the most IGNORANT statement I have ever read on this site.Check Clintons record with the Chinese,then look at what the Chinese are doing with steel cost and then come back and make that statement again,atleast now you can blame ignorance,if you still make it later,well,it won't be ignorance anymore,it will be something else.
As far as the Elite go,I love what they are trying to do and hope they get to where they need to be.They are doing some good things but I don't know if they are there yet.They might be,I can't say because I just don't have enough experience with them.I do hope they get there though.
And I LOVE Easton arrows and their components.They got patents because they have good designs.Isn't America great.
You will find the raw materials twice as high aand then when you start maching them,you will find production cost also take twice as long.
But the other cost the same as them,Blaming Hoyt is petty at best.
AND,Hoyt limbs are not gordan glass.Atleast not the laminated ones.Neither are Barnsdale.
Bush to blame
That is the most IGNORANT statement I have ever read on this site.Check Clintons record with the Chinese,then look at what the Chinese are doing with steel cost and then come back and make that statement again,atleast now you can blame ignorance,if you still make it later,well,it won't be ignorance anymore,it will be something else.As far as the Elite go,I love what they are trying to do and hope they get to where they need to be.They are doing some good things but I don't know if they are there yet.They might be,I can't say because I just don't have enough experience with them.I do hope they get there though.
And I LOVE Easton arrows and their components.They got patents because they have good designs.Isn't America great.
#75
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Isn't America great
Isn't America great
We do have lawyers to keep us safe. They never fleece anyone
Man I stubbed my toe, I better call SAM. Sorry justin I am going to sue HNI. My attention was diverted by your cool site. I plan on using the money to help small children and buy moreland to hored more deer
Then pinky and I plan to take over the world!!!!!
Has anyone shot this bow?
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Fran don't take this wrong... I just find it kind of ironic that someone who went to law school is talking about companies hosing people.... Have you ever had to attain a lawyers service???? Talk about a hosing....
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ORIGINAL: Germ
We do have lawyers to keep us safe. They never fleece anyone
Man I stubbed my toe, I better call SAM. Sorry justin I am going to sue HNI. My attention was diverted by your cool site. I plan on using the money to help small children and buy moreland to hored more deer
Then pinky and I plan to take over the world!!!!!
Has anyone shot this bow?
ORIGINAL: Germ
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Isn't America great
Isn't America great
We do have lawyers to keep us safe. They never fleece anyone
Man I stubbed my toe, I better call SAM. Sorry justin I am going to sue HNI. My attention was diverted by your cool site. I plan on using the money to help small children and buy moreland to hored more deer
Then pinky and I plan to take over the world!!!!!
Has anyone shot this bow?
#79
Cougar Mag , 01-19-2008 06:39 PM
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The minimum wage was bumped up and now the companies "have to" charge more to make up for the extra money that they pay their employees! Its ridiculous, but you can't really single certain companies or markets for it!
BM, I hope somebody is being paid more than minimum wage for building my bow. The minimum wage was bumped up and now the companies "have to" charge more to make up for the extra money that they pay their employees! Its ridiculous, but you can't really single certain companies or markets for it!
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Fran, don't take this wrong...I find it kind of ironic that someone who went to law school is talking about companies hosing people....have you ever had to attain a lawyer's service???? Talk about a hosing....
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!Fran, don't take this wrong...I find it kind of ironic that someone who went to law school is talking about companies hosing people....have you ever had to attain a lawyer's service???? Talk about a hosing....
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Buck Magnet , 01-20-2008 12:49 AM
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BM, I hope somebody is being paid more than minimum wage for building my bow.
Coug, I would hope so too. BM, I hope somebody is being paid more than minimum wage for building my bow.
I was talking in general. There are alot more costs that have to be figured into the building of a bow than whats being portrayed in this post. It would be nice if the only cost of building the bow was just the materials, but the employees who assemble these bows need to be paid, along with the designers. The company then must ship the bows, I am pretty sure that isn't free, and with gas prices rising that will cause the expense of shipping these bows to the dealers to rise. Then, the guys selling these bows need to be paid. What about the electricity that is required to run the machines at the production facility and at the dealer? I agree that bows are overpriced, but it isn't as simple as saying the raw materials to build a bow cost $100 and the dealers sell them for $800 so we as consumers are getting "raped" out of $700. Factor in all the labor costs, shipping costs, and the cost to run these business's and the profit margin isn't going to be so exaggerated!