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Old 10-23-2007 | 12:45 PM
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If you hit a deer with a vehicle here in WI. all you have to do is report the accident and ask for a tag for the deer if you want to keep it. With road kill tags being free, would you use your buck tag on a buck you hit with your truck? Why would you, you can tag it for free and keep your buck tag? You didn't have to hit a doe to earn hitting a buck. It took no skill to hit a deer with an automobile, just bad luck.
Why not just man up and earn your buck the right way? If you have cheated the system, you at least owe it to the rest of us to speak up, get involved and do everything you can to get the laws changed so you don't have to break the laws and make the rest of us look bad. You can write in a forum, write to your law makers, call them, go to the DNR meetings, do something to make a difference.
What are we teaching our children? To pick and choose what laws to obey and what laws to ignore? If you don't like a law, just ignore it? Find away to get around it? The program isn't called Run over a doe to earn a buck. Hunting is A privilege and the DNR is all we got to manage the deer population. When you've put in the hours and done the studies, done as much research as the DNR has, come up with a plan, a goal, all the things we get from our hunting dollars, then maybe you should have the right to deside what rules and regs. to follow. Until then, do your part, honor the privilege and earn your buck or drive to the next county that's not EAB. If you don't like it, show the children that you have respect for the law and that when you disagree with a law you try to get the law change through the proper channels.

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Old 10-23-2007 | 12:58 PM
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Here is a problem with earn a buck. Hunter goes to the woods and sees nothing but bucks. This happens for the majority of the season and fustration sets in and then opporunity knocks. (Road Kill Doe). Now said hunter has his buck tag to go kill one of those bucks he has been seeing the whole season.
When they stated the program, they gave you warning the year before to Earn your buck. That year I went out and shot a buck and then a doe, could have did it the other way around too. Then the EAB season roles around and I can shoot my buck or doe in any order, earned my stick last season.
If you didn't heed the warning and earn you buck the first year, then yes, you are stuck hoping to see a doe first. Also if you loose your sticker, too bad, they won't replace it, got to go earn another one. That got me last year, then after I re earned it, i found the original. lol Shot my buck in a regular unit, didn't even need a sticker.
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Old 10-23-2007 | 02:01 PM
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part of the problem is where they are check in .They should be check in by the state then they would be able to tell if it was hit by a car or not
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Old 10-23-2007 | 02:26 PM
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Here is a problem with earn a buck. Hunter goes to the woods and sees nothing but bucks. This happens for the majority of the season and fustration sets in and then opporunity knocks. (Road Kill Doe). Now said hunter has his buck tag to go kill one of those bucks he has been seeing the whole season.
When they stated the program, they gave you warning the year before to Earn your buck. That year I went out and shot a buck and then a doe, could have did it the other way around too. Then the EAB season roles around and I can shoot my buck or doe in any order, earned my stick last season.
If you didn't heed the warning and earn you buck the first year, then yes, you are stuck hoping to see a doe first. Also if you loose your sticker, too bad, they won't replace it, got to go earn another one. That got me last year, then after I re earned it, i found the original. lol Shot my buck in a regular unit, didn't even need a sticker.
They are talking about it in the area I hunt. I live in a EAB are and it has been that way for a couple of years and most of the guys I talk to haven't been able to shoot a doe every year and that is why my scenario isn't that far off base. But like I said I could care less either way I wouldn't do it but if it someone is willing to take the risk have at it.
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Old 10-23-2007 | 03:14 PM
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That is sad and if indeed being done, shame on any WI hunter doing such an unethical and immoral thing. A try blackeye for all hunters for sure.

And why is it that all news channels jump at the opportunity to slam hunters and you never hear anything about the illegal activities of PETA and the sort?
Because most media is Liberal oriented!
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Old 10-23-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Make you wonder what the risk is. How big of fine is it? I don't think I've ever heard of a DNR fine under $200. Years prior they alway had the early T zone hunt. I didn't like that as a bow hunter at all. Bucks just getting into rut and I had just found a good scrape line and bang, everyones in the woods shooting doe. In a non bait zone, the rut is all we got, learn to hunt it and it's ruined by early T zone gun hunt. No mater what they do, not every one is going to agree. Pesonally I think if they are going to use the EAB system then the gun hunt should be longer. 2 weekends isn't enough for the average weekend worrior to EAB. a 16 day gun season, either a week earlier or later,( I'd perfer later,) would take off the pressure a little and more hunters would be successful with less cheatin'. To spread out the different gun hunts, black powder hunt, doesn't work either. Put 'em together, make it one long stretch so the hunters can get on the deer and stay on them. Coming back 3 weeks later, the deer are in a different pattern.
Until then, I'll do my best to follow the rules and keep my buddies in line also. Peer pressure.
A squeeky wheel gets the grease. If you don't like the laws, squeek up. The majorety does not rule. It's the few who take the time to speak up that have the biggest influence on DNR laws. Unfortunately the anti's don't have anything better to do, so they show up to the meetings.


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Old 10-23-2007 | 05:43 PM
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That's not the only practice being done by antler hungry hunters. Here in Mdthe DNR switched to a phone in or an on line check in a few years ago.2 out of your first 3 deer have to be does before you can shoot a 2nd buck. How many times do you think it happens that someone phones in 2 fictitious doe killsin order to shoot 2 bucks back to back or how manyare called in with a 2nd buck down already down and the hunter has no doe kills at all? The system is built for cheaters. All we can do is police it.
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Old 10-24-2007 | 07:55 AM
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Wack,
You can't read very well can you? I never said I used a buck tag to tag a doe, I used an antlerless carcass tag that we get free. As for skill level I could also say it takes almost no skill to shoot a deer with a rifle. Heck, you see shows with blind people and severely handicapped people doing it, much less the average turd in orange in Wisconsin who maybe blows the dust off of their gun before heading to the woods.
I'm not going to say I'm sorry for tagging that doe. At the very least I got some meat from it to make up for the money it cost me.
As for people scraping them off the highway that were hit by someone else, or re-using deer that don't have their ears slit, I would say that is dishonest. I killed a deer and tagged it. Period.
The DNR's mismanagement is also part of the problem. I know that the individual employees are probably overworked/underpaid but that has to do with the total mismanagement of money from the top down. I really think in some areas EAB is a very good thing.
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Old 10-24-2007 | 09:03 AM
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EAB makes people do stupid things. Think about it, you are heading into day 1 of the season and you can't shoot a buck because you didn't shoot your doe yet. You wait all year for that magical opening morning and you can't shoot a buck if he walks by. That thought is enough to make a normally sensible person do stupid things. Contrary to the DNRs belief that there is a deer behind every tree, some areas aren't blessed with the big deer populations. Heading into this years gun season I am the only 1 of our 8 guys in camp that is already buck eligible. We tried our best last year but it was a down year. For the first time in my life, I felt guilty after shooting a deer. I shot a doe fawn for the sole purpose of getting that stupid little sticker and a year later it still bugs me. I'm not saying it's right, ethical, or even trying to excuse it per se, but I do understand why it happens.
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Old 10-24-2007 | 09:22 AM
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WACK,

what area do you hunt in?
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